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Old 08-16-2006, 03:43 PM   #118
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Default Re: Get more boost from your Roe Blower!

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Kenny, did you request your car be returned to you without the 500 break-in miles? I'm just not sure why you didn't leave it down there until Larry could get the miles on it and tune for real drivablility, not on the dyno. Did the car have a valid tag on it? I just can't see how you can expect real word drivability when the car wasn't driven in the real world.
I was told by Sir Larry that my car was tuned and ready to be picked up. Shortly afterwards, Larry offered to tow my car back to Ohio near where I live. Only after I picked it up did I find out that it had not been given the 500 mile break in that I had already paid for in Larry's Invoice. Larry said he had absolutely no drivability issues with it other than it sometimes got stuck in a loop and had to be restarted before it could be driven on the street. He was totally surprised that it had extreme surging problems, code P0171 being thrown, and high idle hang up issues. I was surprised that the mileage on the car when it was returned showed that it hardly had any extra miles on it over the miles it took to drive it to Florida. Larry had taken over two whole months tuning it from when he completed the engine work of installing the Striker heads.

As far as the valid tag, my car was promised to be completed by the beginning of April and the tags did not expire until the end of April. Then it was promised to be ready by the start of May and I was going to bring the new tags with me when I flew down to pick it up. In early May Larry called me and told me the tags had expired so I send him a copy of my new license plate, my insurance papers, and my registration so he could drive it the 500 miles for the engine break in period. I also sent a letter To Whom It May Concern specifically giving Larry permission to be driving my Viper. I thought when Sir Larry told me the car was ready for pick up that he had driven it in the real world since I had already paid him to drive it 500 miles. Remember, Larry promised that it would be a super reliable daily driver, throw no codes, and have at least the high 700's in power before he would release it back to me.

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I understand your frustration, but you really can't expect to get all the bugs worked out over the phone. As JD said before, its an unproven build. If Larry did not get to drive the car for the 500 miles etc, no telling what can happen during the breakin miles. Anything change.
I paid the big bucks to get the best and most experienced Roe tuner around and I was counting on Larry being that person and making sure that I would be getting a super reliable daily driver, throw no codes, and have lots more power.

No power level was ever specified until Larry stated it would have at least the high 700's and I asked to make sure that the a super reliable daily driver & throw no codes would still be there and he said "Yes." Only after the Striker heads were installed did he apologise for not insisting I get the Jeff Morys Stage III heads instead. He had 5 months to insist that before the Striker heads arrived and failed to do so. Larry had 2 months after he told me my car was running to put the 500 break in miles on it. He told me at the beginning there was some minor cruising issues he was working on and I assumed he was driving my car putting on the 500 mile break in on it and correcting the cruising issues. If he would have driven the 500 miles like I had already paid him to do, he could tell what can happen during the breakin miles.

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I can't see all the discussion about this when the car hasn't been returned to Larry so he can spend some time with the car ON THE STREET tuning it. You got the break-in miles on the car now, let the man finish his job now. Thankfully someone can take it back down for you.
I paid for a completed car project. He had two months after he got it to run with the Striker heads to run it on the street and did not. It was delivered to me as being complete, except I would have to put the 500 miles on it and Larry would return to adjust the tuning in a few weeks and did not.

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