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Old 04-08-2008, 10:05 PM   #40
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Default Re: Nissan GTR Versus The 08 Viper

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Originally Posted by RTTTTed View Post
TC actually slows the car down, doesn't make it faster - and race cars never come with TC for this reason. What TC does is turn a lousy driver into an OK driver (not a good driver).

If you drive into a 60mph corner at 80mph TC won't help. You're still going to slide off the road.

AWD, 3600#, 245x40x18" and 500hp TT V6 in my 1992 Stealth R/T TT. The Electronic Controlled Susp. (ECS - a higher tech version of Stability control) replaced with GABS gas struts for improved handling. No that's a race for a GTR, not a Viper!!! And yes, I have the fastest car on ice and snow covered roads all winter! I suppose my Stealth will beat a stock Viper (Gen 1 for sure), but it's a TT car (NO Torque at low rpm) and with skinny tires it's not going to beat any Gen 4, or even come close. My Gen 2 has wheels, brakes, supercharger and nav, bluetooth, all for half price of a GTR. What a joke, trying to compare an 08 Viper

There was a show on the GTR and the 08 Viper on speed channel last week. The GTR compared OK, until the driver actually stepped on the throttle in the Viper, then all comparisons were done. The mag driver did the Viper 'thing' and laughed his head off all the way around the track. Results; The GTR cannot compete on the track in any way (gas mileage maybe?) but they'said they're planning to do a street comparison and then the GTR will probably win as it has more driver 'aids' cupholders.

I would expect the Z06 to be so far in front of the GTR on a road course that it would be out of sight and in a race would lap the GTR many times.

Physics are that skinny tires and AWD won't make the car with 7" tires go around the corner as fast as any of the cars with 11 and 13" tires. And more computers just slow the car down with extra weight.

TC - how can anyone think that applying the brakes will make a car go faster???????

Ted
I'm not so sure about some of your points. Everything else being equal the TC car has an advantage. There is no comparison between a 08 ACR and a 400hp TC equiped Nissan, but a 08 ACR vs. a TC equiped 08 ACR (God forbid) and the scales would tip in favor of the TC car.

Although the fun factor will always be with the non-TC car no matter what the scenario.
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