[black mamba1]

Originally Posted by radta7

BM,

what are you talking about? Virginia class subs are not cancelled. Production through 2012 at least from what is on the books... They are actually producing more in 2012 than 2011. So rather than deflect blame to the Bush admin, explain why your candidate said the above bc it's pretty damn scary. Bush is irrelevant. The Seawolf is actually more advanced for ship fighting than the Virgina class subs. The Virginia class is better suited for littoral fighting which is what the US will face in the future hence the cancellation.

You clearly know very litle about the B1 as well. Stick to defending your candidate and stay out of military affair of which you have made several mistakes.

Japs? Krouts? Did you really use those terms? Try this for formal military: Imperial Japanese Army and Navy and SS, Nazi, panzer forces...

Geez.

Bush this, Bush that... Focus on what Obama said in the video. Find out what McCain would say...

Here's a hint: That dumbass wants to cancel the F22 Raptor.

The Virginia class of fast attack subs were to enhance the Seawolfs capability, but were rushed into production after the Seawolf was cancelled. The first block of Virginia class subs are smaller and cheaper, but offer no real advantage in technology or stealthiness...this would be the block 1 subs. Block 2 will be built with better manufactureing, and block 3 will have enhanced electronics and electromagnetic countermeasures that will greatly enhance stealth. Block 1 subs are cancelled after 2010, blocks 2 and 3 will both be capable of the new technology, not block one, which should have never been built.

The B1 fighter has no specific role. It is just a bigger FB-111. At first the Air Force was going to try to come in low and fast to reach targets b/c they knew it wold be shot down. But after the Brits and Italians lost several Tornados in Gulf War 1 coming in low an fast, and we had numerous A-10's shot up, they sermised that would not be a good tactic. So, now its back to flying in high. Just like our current F-15E's and D's. But they can only do that after the (now retired F-117's) and HARM missiles have cleared the way and destroyed the AAA. So, you basically have no benefit like the B2 which can come in right up the enemies gut and drop a missile down an airshaft, the B1 has to wait just like the Big Ole B-52's. Yes it is another platform, but that is all it is. At its price, its not worth it. A fleet of f-35's and B-2's can annihilate an entire city. And they dont need AAA supression like the B1 does.

I am against cancelling the F-22 Raptor. But several Presidents have toyed with cancelling it. My point is that Bush 1 and Bush 2 cancelled programs and reduced the military...so stay on issue, and the issue is not Obama this and Obama that....that is personal, not issue related.