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Old 05-11-2006, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default [VIDEO] C6 Z06 vs Ford GT

[VIDEO] C6 Z06 vs Ford GT.....OMG



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C6 Z06 - Cold air intake + Tune
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The driver of the GT also has a 700+RWHP C5, so trust me he can drive. He has had numerous exotics and even made some DVD's. I'm getting so sick of this dumbass argument. Just because you think a car SHOULD win, it doesn't mean a damn thing. The new Z is putting down 500 hp, while the GT is at 550. Take the weight(200lbs) into consideration, and you've just negated your power difference.

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Old 05-11-2006, 02:55 PM   #2
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Ask yourself this?

1.) Which car makes your jaw drop, and which one can be confused with every C5/C6 on the road? That equates to a bazillon cars...

2.) What sane GT owner spends $150 large, then keeps his car stock? That is, when 650-700 RWHP can be had with a simple pulley change/tune/exhaust for a few grand more?

* Cool vid though..... But IMHO, if you roll up on a GT you better be packing 650+RWHP to make a race of it. Cause any sane man will do those simple/reliable mods to gain big HP/Torque. Especially when those mods can easily be reversed if warranty work is needed (put stock computer back in, put stock pulley back on).




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Old 05-11-2006, 03:20 PM   #3
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I agree 100%, if I had to choose it would be the GT HANDS Down..

As far as it being "Just a Corvette" I also agree 100%.

But keep in mind the same applies "It's just a Viper" to Ferrari and Lamborghini owners. Do you think A Lamborghini owners gives .02 cents if he gets beat buy a Viper? Win or lose he's driving a Ferrari while you are in a Viper.

HARDLY, but does that make the Viper any less Bad Azz than what it is, Hell no....

Luckily the Viper and Z06 repond to mods. With headers, cam, and a tune the Z06 is now putting down 635RWHP and 250lbs less than the GT, then again I'd rather own the GT no question.

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Ask yourself this?

1.) Which car makes your jaw drop, and which one can be confused with every C5/C6 on the road? That equates to a bazillon cars...

2.) What sane GT owner spends $150 large, then keeps his car stock? That is, when 650-700 RWHP can be had with a simple pulley change/tune/exhaust for a few grand more?

* Cool vid though..... But IMHO, if you roll up on a GT you better be packing 650+RWHP to make a race of it. Cause any sane man will do those simple/reliable mods to gain big HP/Torque. Especially when those mods can easily be reversed if warranty work is needed (put stock computer back in, put stock pulley back on).

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Old 05-11-2006, 05:33 PM   #4
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Wow, a nearly 50% (635 RWHP vs approx 450 RWHP stock) hp increase with just headers, cam and a tune for a Z06. That nets 50 - 75 hp in a Viper. In fact to get that same amount of gain the Viper needs about 8 psi of boost. That must be some cam!
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Old 05-11-2006, 06:04 PM   #5
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Wow, a nearly 50% (635 RWHP vs approx 450 RWHP stock) hp increase with just headers, cam and a tune for a Z06. That nets 50 - 75 hp in a Viper. In fact to get that same amount of gain the Viper needs about 8 psi of boost. That must be some cam!
Seems I was off, sorry for any confusion. Seems the exhaust ports were polished and the numbers were 632RWHP/532RWTQ

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1354608



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LG Cam, Headers, minor exhaust port work and EWP and some other special LGM touches!

We had to do it for all the doubters of our LG Pro Long Tube headers. These are our standard 1 3/4" LG PRo Long Tube Headers with our new G7X-4 cam and Electric Water Pump. We just finished it and did a fast tune so we will be able to smooth out the curve later. but I was so excited to reach over 600, and in fact over 620rwhp that I had to post this fast.

The low end torque never drops below 400 even at 2500 rpms and it is above 500 rwtq from 4300 to 6300rpms.

This will be my daily driver so I will give you updates as we go along. We will see if this cam is as docile as I think it is for this 7 liter engine.

Thanks to all our supporters and those of you who have never doubted our headers as a true broad power band performer.

It is area under the curve that matters, and with over 620rwhp it makes quite a bit of "Area"


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Old 05-11-2006, 08:05 PM   #6
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I agree 100%, if I had to choose it would be the GT HANDS Down..

As far as it being "Just a Corvette" I also agree 100%.

But keep in mind the same applies "It's just a Viper" to Ferrari and Lamborghini owners. Do you think A Lamborghini owners gives .02 cents if he gets beat buy a Viper? Win or lose he's driving a Ferrari while you are in a Viper.

HARDLY, but does that make the Viper any less Bad Azz than what it is, Hell no....

Luckily the Viper and Z06 repond to mods. With headers, cam, and a tune the Z06 is now putting down 635RWHP and 250lbs less than the GT, then again I'd rather own the GT no question.

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Ask yourself this?

1.) Which car makes your jaw drop, and which one can be confused with every C5/C6 on the road? That equates to a bazillon cars...

2.) What sane GT owner spends $150 large, then keeps his car stock? That is, when 650-700 RWHP can be had with a simple pulley change/tune/exhaust for a few grand more?

* Cool vid though..... But IMHO, if you roll up on a GT you better be packing 650+RWHP to make a race of it. Cause any sane man will do those simple/reliable mods to gain big HP/Torque. Especially when those mods can easily be reversed if warranty work is needed (put stock computer back in, put stock pulley back on).

1.) Where did I say, "It's just a Corvette"? I like the new Z06. Great performance for a great price. Problem is it looks like a base C6, and a lot like the previous C5. And the rear even looks a lot like a C4. So basically, it doesn't look like anything special on the road and could be confused with any Vette since 1984 by a non-car enthusiast. To say, "It's just a Corvette" is silly. Corvette has a great history in the US. But I will say there are tens of thousands on the road and the styling is nothing special (and looks like previous generations). A better phrase would be, "Look, another Corvette".

2.) I'm sorry, but a disagree. I have NEVER heard anyone say, "It's just a Viper". These cars a very rare and seldom seen on the road. There road presence is outrages and inspiring as well, and look every bit as good as any Ferrari or Lambo. The GTS has one of the best, if not the best body line of any car in the past 30 years. Ferrari & Lambo owners often invite Viper owners to different events, etc... Not that I worry about what they think, but I don't think they would do this if they thought it was "just a Viper". The Viper is a special car on the road and draws all the oooooo's and aaaaaa's that the Ferrari's and Lambo's do. The newer (1984 up) Corvettes just doesn't inspire this type of emotion.

3.) I've followed the development of the performance mods for the Z06. I'm familar with the LG motorsports. The shop acknowledged using many tricks to get those numbers, and said the road going version would be around 600 RWHP. Not to mention, the cam is very agressive and total mod cost for what he did (more than just cam/header/tune) will be expensive. Also, this combo. has yet to be proven in customers cars. On the contrary, the best Corvette Tuner (Lingenfelter) has released a heads/cam/header/exhaust. The cam is moderately aggressive, probably the most you would want to go on the street. Anyway, this package is putting out about 524RWHP 486Torque according the there website. I would say this is a realistic/reliable package that will be representative of these mods. Cost about $5,500. Now keep in mind, stock GT's are putting 520-550 RWHP and more torque then this with no mods. Sorry, but there is no comparision. You are going to have to dump fairly big bucks into a C6 Z06, lose the warranty, compromise reliability to hang with a pulley/tune/exhaust GT. And those changes can be done cheaply and can be easily swapped out for warranty work. The GT is bad to the bone. So is the Z06, but there is no comparing it to the GT, IMHO. That being said, the GT is double the cost!
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1.) Where did I say, "It's just a Corvette"? I like the new Z06. Great performance for a great price. Problem is it looks like a base C6, and a lot like the previous C5. And the rear even looks a lot like a C4. So basically, it doesn't look like anything special on the road and could be confused with any Vette since 1984 by a non-car enthusiast. To say, "It's just a Corvette" is silly. Corvette has a great history in the US. But I will say there are tens of thousands on the road and the styling is nothing special (and looks like previous generations). A better phrase would be, "Look, another Corvette".
If you/anyone else can't tell the difference between a 1984 Corvette and a 2006 Vette then your name must be Stevie Wonder....

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2.) I'm sorry, but a disagree. I have NEVER heard anyone say, "It's just a Viper". These cars a very rare and seldom seen on the road. There road presence is outrages and inspiring as well, and look every bit as good as any Ferrari or Lambo. The GTS has one of the best, if not the best body line of any car in the past 30 years. Ferrari & Lambo owners often invite Viper owners to different events, etc... Not that I worry about what they think, but I don't think they would do this if they thought it was "just a Viper". The Viper is a special car on the road and draws all the oooooo's and aaaaaa's that the Ferrari's and Lambo's do. The newer (1984 up) Corvettes just doesn't inspire this type of emotion.
Having owned exotics myself, going to some of these meets the true feeling about American cars come out with Vette/Viper owners aren't in attendance. Believe me when I say this that they see it as a lesser car. Personally I could give .02 about that and I'm sure many here would agree.

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Old 05-15-2006, 03:49 PM   #8
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Having owned exotics myself, going to some of these meets the true feeling about American cars come out with Vette/Viper owners aren't in attendance. Believe me when I say this that they see it as a lesser car. Personally I could give .02 about that and I'm sure many here would agree.



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This quote is right on. I'm at the point where I'm considering adding another car to my garage. I've never owned a Ferrari or a Lambo. Although, I'm considering both. However, in a lot of ways, they're just so dainty. With the Ferrari dropping the engine every 7,500 miles at a cost of $5k+ and the Lambo's blowing up clutches every time you really run the cars... I just don't know. The Z06 is to be respected but visually, it's just not there.

In the end, I keep coming back to the Viper. A GTS with a TT system will run 1,000 hp. That's more car than 99.99999% of the competition can handle. Actually, that's probably more car than I can handle. But, I'm willing to try. What a feeling that would be. A ten year old, lowly American made Viper totally shutting down the worlds latest and greatest at a fraction of the cost and without the maintenance headaches. Long live the Viper.
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1.) Where did I say, "It's just a Corvette"? I like the new Z06. Great performance for a great price. Problem is it looks like a base C6, and a lot like the previous C5. And the rear even looks a lot like a C4. So basically, it doesn't look like anything special on the road and could be confused with any Vette since 1984 by a non-car enthusiast. To say, "It's just a Corvette" is silly. Corvette has a great history in the US. But I will say there are tens of thousands on the road and the styling is nothing special (and looks like previous generations). A better phrase would be, "Look, another Corvette".
If you/anyone else can't tell the difference between a 1984 Corvette and a 2006 Vette then your name must be Stevie Wonder....

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2.) I'm sorry, but a disagree. I have NEVER heard anyone say, "It's just a Viper". These cars a very rare and seldom seen on the road. There road presence is outrages and inspiring as well, and look every bit as good as any Ferrari or Lambo. The GTS has one of the best, if not the best body line of any car in the past 30 years. Ferrari & Lambo owners often invite Viper owners to different events, etc... Not that I worry about what they think, but I don't think they would do this if they thought it was "just a Viper". The Viper is a special car on the road and draws all the oooooo's and aaaaaa's that the Ferrari's and Lambo's do. The newer (1984 up) Corvettes just doesn't inspire this type of emotion.
Having owned exotics myself, going to some of these meets the true feeling about American cars come out with Vette/Viper owners aren't in attendance. Believe me when I say this that they see it as a lesser car. Personally I could give .02 about that and I'm sure many here would agree.


- From the rear the C4 and C6 do look very similar IMO.

- Of course they're going to say there Ferrari/Lambo is better. You have to justify the price difference. Not to mention owner loyalty. But I think the Viper ranks right up there with the Lambo's & Ferrari's with the true non-biased car nut. I've been to many car shows, and the GTS draws as much attention if not more. Now the Vette on the other hand, doesn't inspire this reaction. That's the point I'm trying to make. For example, you put a Viper GTS, Ferrari 355, Lambo Diablo, and Corvette C5 Z06 in a random car show. There is one car in this group that will not have many people around it....

As far as Lambo owners turning there noses up, I find that kind'a funny. Until Audi got involved, Lambo had horiffic build quality and a kit car interior. I'll never forget the first time I saw one up close + sat in. I was soooooooo excited until I got close to the car. Then I looked at the build quality and sat in the car. I all about cried. My childhood fantasy was crushed. Never forget.... It was a white Countach. That being said, I am very impressed with the Lambo Murc., but still think the Audi Gallardo is a sad attempt at 'exotic' (appearance wise).

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