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Old 05-23-2008, 02:48 PM   #76
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Jon: I have my OWN reasons NOT to add my/Mike's names/address to be released publicly. I will release that to who reasonably asks....which I did to you in the email. LOVED your email back, BTW!!!!
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Julie, I misumnderstood your post then! See what U wrote above?

Fact Moderators like Chris and Kelly and Lee see DIFFERENT than what WE see. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT...as it SHOULD be. But JULIE: You said (My profile is NOT anonymous, Mike's and my names and address is there!).... It is NOT visible .....

Lastly, and NOT arguable, really: If this was a classy and safe enuf forum, with strict standards, we could all be happy to sign our true and real names.....
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:53 PM   #77
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........ (My profile is NOT anonymous, Mike's and my names and address is there!)....
Julie, I misumnderstood your post then! See what U wrote above?
Fact Moderators like Chris and Kelly and Lee see DIFFERENT than what WE see. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT...as it SHOULD be. But JULIE: You said (My profile is NOT anonymous, Mike's and my names and address is there!)....
It is NOT visible .....
Yes, I understand that now! I saw our own names there, and figured everyone else did too....then when I learned that people did NOT see our names/address, I was glad...as I said, I have my OWN reasons for NOT releasing that publicly....but you're right, I WAS under the impression that the info was available...sorry bout that~~~! But, you got my email as you asked, correct? (As I said, I DID love that last email you sent to ME~)
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(BTW: Name is JULI and you asked what Viper we had...it's in our sig! Along with our first names )
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:01 PM   #78
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Thanks JUlie.........HEY!:
E-me your address (yur profile is anonymous) and Ill send YOU some VIPER POSTAGE STAMPS! We had several photos of kool customer Vipers made into U.S. POSTAGE! JonB
Hey, Jon~~THANK YOUUUUUU...your package JUST came (6:30pm our time)!!! WOW...I even cut out the stamp you used on the priority package...the sheet of photo-stamps inside...AWESOME customer Vipers!!!! AND, the special gift as well...as always, you amaze me, thank you kindly! ~juli
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:16 AM   #79
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Lastly, and NOT arguable, really: If this was a classy and safe enuf forum, with strict standards, we could all be happy to sign our true and real names.....
Totally arguable and not just a little absurd to even imply this is not a classy and safe forum - without strict standards no less! Just because it doesn't provide a mailing list doesn't mean it is any less safe or "classy". We get constantly insulted on other message boards for being TOO safe and TOO "classy" (although there are different words for the latter ).

However, since it seems someone needs to defend the site I'll give it a whirl. Although it caused my blood sugar to go through the roof, I went ahead and searched a few other discussion forums that are about as "safe" as they come. Quick - start counting how many REAL names you see posting in them:

Who's your favorite Disney Princess? - Talk Disney Discussion Forums

Wilton Discussion Forums - Hello Kitty Pan

Foodservice Forums - The Lowly Weiner

Sturdy Elevated Dog Bowls - Rottweiler Discussion Forums

ProMoM Discussion Forums :: View topic - We're Back!!!!!

festivals : Safe Concerts Forum - Music Not Mayhem

The Muppets? - Talk Disney Discussion Forums

*~*Pressed Pennies Tips and Facts*~* - The DIS Discussion Forums - DISboards.com

Where'd You Ride Today? - Bike Forums

Okay, I could go on for months but the point is again very clear: Very, very few people use their real names (and NEVER their addresses) on public message boards. Period. Now if this were a PRIVATE message board (which it will never be), like the Brobst Family Reunion Page, then maybe folks might use their real names. Certainly you don't suggest we make this an elitist, private, members-only (and only with a background check) forum, do you?

Because in order to bring Corvette owners into the Viper world and then to bring those new Viper owners into the VCA, you absolutely MUST be a public forum. And with that comes a lot of exposure for people that post here. Even if we all hold hands and sing the Viper Song (it's not very long), we can't control who is looking in on our little love fest. So just when you think it is safe to sign your full name (and address no less), As such, we will go to any length to protect our forum member's privacy. Period.

And finally, I would note that the moderators and admins here work tirelessly to keep these forums "safe" and held to strict standards. Take a trip over to viperalley if you would like to see a change of pace. They also have moderators and admins that work tirelessly - the standards simply aren't as strict. Not even in the Viper Vendors and Tuners forum, where you would think it was safe to tread.

So cruise over to Talk Disney Discussion Forums - Powered by vBulletin - probably the safest forums on the Net. Just don't be disappointed when they refuse to tell you their real names: As I said before it's simply the way the world works.
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:47 AM   #80
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If you need parts you should be able to cal any day as far as I am concerned, A Viper down" is a bad day.

So.... Calling on Monday... Tuesday... Wednesday... Thursday...Friday...And even Saturday. Sunday should be for entertainment only, and ALL should get the same curtious respect.
If nobody called on Monday, would Jon still be busy on Monday and not be able to talk to all the people NOT calling? Reminds me of the Yogi Berra quote "Nobody is coming to the games any more becasue it is too crowded".
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Old 05-24-2008, 07:58 AM   #81
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Chris, I should not have implied the VCA is not strict...We are, and THANKS. The word "IF" is in there as a limiter. IF this was even a stricter place........

........Your 5000 word replies and links aside, all I said to Juli is that her name and address as she claimed ('My profile is NOT anonymous, Mike's and my names and address is there!').... is NOT visible.

As frequent a poster as Juli, she also thot it IS visible !! Ironically, I wanted Juli's NAME so I could find her address to SEND her some stuff, not harass her! STUGOTS is another member who Id like to SEND SOMETHING to, but he is anonymous. And there are others!

One of your tireless, helpful, beloved and deeply appreciated moderators last week asked me to kindly and lovingly tell him what the 'public profile' revealed on a specific member, only seeing the full data himself. Moderator thought the member's full pedigree was showing, cause HE sees it. I cut and pasted what I saw (the limits of my skills!)

Lots of (lower-skilled folks like me?) ASSUME the profile they entered on registration is revealed. {As Julie appeared to, by her statement} They are not paranoid or desiring anonymity for celebrity reasons. They TELL me they entered it, and it it does not show. As that moderator learned. Some ARE suprised to learn they are anonymous. ITS CONFUSING.

Even WORSE for VCA treasury, almost every DAY customers ask me for a VCA discount, becasue they "are a member of the VCA" and give me their SCREEN NAME. They THINK they joined VCA becasue they joined HERE. The registration here confuses some.

Last week on PrimeTime or 20/20 or some such was a story on internet crime, internet attacks and Internet Anonymity, and a growing attititude on the net about "Anonymity = Cowardice." THIS VCA SITE should not be a place where members feel the need to hide who they are. The moderators alone get the full-meal-deal, but true names are hidden as SOP, not voluntarily. I simply suggest IF a registrant wants to be publically anonymous, make that an OPTION, not SOP. And I NEVER ASKED or SUGGESTED that email addresses be revealed. Just your true name.

My minority opinion is: Take ownership of your posts, and maybe even pride in what you say. Even a graffiti tagger signs his work. Man Up. Sign your posts, or your profile. The Viper Boogeeymen arent really gonna hurt you. The HURTFUL and hateful posts on the internet are almost always from anonymous (cowards?) who dont sign their posts.........or so Prime-Time 20/20 said anyway. Since the VCA enforces civility here (THANKS) why not own up? Some DO. Most dont, as SOP 'forced' on them here. Im the minority.

ps to NUKED: Yogi's quote was about a popular restaurant...not the stadium. And YES: I usually have enuf Emails and internet store orders on MONDAYS only, that I could work 8+ hours filling and shipping emailed orders and answering inquiries.... phone OFF! So I have to RUSH my callers on Mondays....I hate rushing people who want / need more time. If I take calls slow and relaxed, weekend orders dont go out Monday. So it's First-Come basis... I dislike it too....
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:15 AM   #82
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Yes, I admit to being a 'frequent poster' here...and was GLAD to learn that my profile WAS anonymous, as I did MISTAKENLY believe it was NOT...so I wasn't trying to contradict myself, I simply didn't know.
I believe in staying anonymous, if someone kindly asks [as Jon did], I will send my email address/info to them all in the name of STILL remaining a PRIVATE profile. I believe in that....Jon, you were VERY kind to send me the goodies~~I am grateful, thank you....also, Thank You Chris and moderators for letting us remain anonymous. Okay, I'm good...how's about you all??? ENJOY the WEEKEND!!!~~~juli
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Wow this was interesting. I can say I've called Jon on a Monday I think it was anyways when I ordered my belanger exhaust kit. He was nice and told me that he was very busy we had some minor problems on my end but got it all straight. That was the first time I even talked to him and he treated me just as good if not better than many other people I deal with.I have now a awsome sounding viper and actually have to call him to order some more parts next week when I get time to actually call. New baby and racecar equals very little sleep lol. Thanks Jon for the help and you'll be hearing from me again.
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I been here a few years now and this is news to me about the names not showing up, guess I always just assumed they showed
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na,na,na,na,naaa, jonB cant find my name in my profile.......


ooops, i forgot jon has my name and address already...
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Well now-
According to Chris- I'm going to have to change my ways!
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