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Viper Owner
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Rowlett,Tx
Posts: 632
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I would like to run a dry shot of Nitrous on my 96 GTS. A 100 shot would be perfect. I would like to run a very simple kit. Just a window switch and a bottle heater. How would I go about enriching the fuel for just the 100 shot dry?? Would the Vec 1 I have help any?? Any info is welcome.
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If that is all you want buy the nos5180 kit and it takes care of the enrichment. Ditch the vec1 with n02.
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Rowlett,Tx
Posts: 632
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Thats a $1000 system. If I wanted do go that route. I would do NX wet kit and pick up a ton more power for less.
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Enthusiast
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: pleasanton,ca 94566
Posts: 431
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But if you buy a vec one plus a base kit, aren't you at about the same cost almost?
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Hello,
One of our customers from Naples, Florida recently dynoed his 97 GTS at 563 RWHP with our exhaust system and basic "dry" nitrous system. This kit netted him @ 115 RWHP (thats 130+ at the flywheel). This system uses a controller to optimize fuel delivery to the engine during WOT/NOS application. The NX system is not a dry system. It taps into your engines fuel system for nitrous supplementation. This is ok so long as a/f ratios are carefully monitored. Feel free to contact me should you have any questions regarding our dry system. Tom |
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NOS brand uses a modification that fools the PCM into thinking that the air temp is -20 degrees. It changes the resistance in the circuit that monitors the intake air temp and the coolant temp. The Vec 1 is nice for some applications, not N2O.
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: TUCSON, AZ - USA
Posts: 1,512
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i run a wet kit on my drag boat. that would be nos cheater system 4 dual carb applications. the system can spray anywhere from a 100 hp shot to a 250 hp shot. i run a dry nos kit on my 2001 honda cbr 929 motorcycle. i can adjust that one from 25hp-40hp shot. i have a nos dry kit 4 my 2001 camaro ss that i will be installing next year (75hp-125 hp). i have burned over 500 lbs of nytrus in my drag boat and never had a problem. gotta luv the spray. i will be getting nos dry kit 4 my viper. since i have no desire to drag race my viper, but instead road race in the future. my use 4 the nos will be used in 6th gear only. i have gone 180 mph in 5th gear when my car was bone stock. i want go 200 mph in 6th gear. so i am gonna spray the motor when i shift into 6th gear at 180 mph. btw i did this with my motorcycle. the bike would not pull 6th gear with the stock gearing and my heavy azz at 3000+ ft. elevation. i was hp limited to 161 mph in 5th gear. i geared the bike down and it would pull 6th gear but i was still only going 161 mph. so i re-geared it back 2 stock and sprayed the motor when i shifted into 6th gear at 161 mph and wadda ya know i hit 175 mph.
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Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,983
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Not so good on the motor to spray it in 6th gear, not good at all.
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Rowlett,Tx
Posts: 632
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My comment about the NX kit was about the wet system. That is the only way to get an NX kit is wet. If I was going to spend a $1000 it would be for more than 100HP and definitely wet. I was looking for just a little extra punch with out alot of hassle.
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Whatever. JackB answered your first question on how to enrichen a dry kit.
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SoCal VCA Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Southern Kalifornia
Posts: 2,510
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I am just about to install the NX Express system (wet, 150 shot)...Why should I not use the VEC-1 with it???
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: TUCSON, AZ - USA
Posts: 1,512
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not sure what that vec-1 does but if it advances your timing that is not good. if anything u want to retard your timing when u spray. if u run a dry kit the stock timing should be ok as long as u run 100 octane unleaded race gas. also i would go 1 step colder on my spark plugs with a dry shot and narrow the gap on the spark plugs. personally if i were going to spray big doses from a wet kit i would do all of the above + retard my timing and have forged pistons 2.
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For some reason when tuning a NOS engine, the VEC1 does not adjust immediately, there is a lag in the adjustment process. The whole key with NOS is consistency, the VEC1 hurts the tuning process. In addition, you cannot independently adjust a/f and timing. One last thing, if the injectors are maxed out the VEC1 does you no good which could be the case with a dry 100 shot. All that said, I would be the first to use the VEC1 on a NA engine with any sort of modification
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SoCal VCA Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Southern Kalifornia
Posts: 2,510
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I wonder if I can relay the VEC1 out of the loop when the N20 is engaged???
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