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Old 06-16-2003, 11:55 PM   #1
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Default Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

The Enzo Ferrari blows away all the Viper engine tuners and builders in both 0-60 and quarter mile even with a bit less horsepower than lets say the Henneseys, the Apex's and the many others. It does 0-60 in 3.5 sec. and the quarter mile in 11.1 seconds with the stock tires even though the Viper tuners might have more power and way more torque. Hennessy has done 2.9 0-60 but that was with slicks so you cant compare. Why were the cars in the car and driver ultimate challenge so slow when comparing it to the Enzo Ferrari. Anyone know what is the major reason
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

It's not always about horsepower suspension, traction, and say the fact that the Enzo can do 60mph in 1st gear alone gives it an advantage I personally hope that the Enzo can kick butt of all super tuner cars, it is after all a F1 based car
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:10 AM   #3
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

b/c it costs about 5 times the price of a tuner viper.....
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:15 AM   #4
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well, Ferrari bassed the Enzo off F1 tech, so that has somthing to do with it. what does the enzo weigh? i bet its a bit less then the viper (2767 per ferrari) with a curb weight of 3000 lbs. its ALOT more areodynamic then any viper could wish to be (not as if that hast much to do with the 1/4 mile and such). carbon and carbonfiber does itself wonders. for the 700G's you get a the best "production" car in the world.
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:19 AM   #5
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

Who cares; for $500,000, it should even be faster!!!
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

ruckdr - no kidding!

It's all in the power to weight...as Collin Chapman used to say :

"For speed, add lightness."

The Enzo weighed in the last R&T came in at 27xx I believe...wet, too as I recall.

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Old 06-17-2003, 02:35 AM   #7
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[******]'s 800TT has done 60 in 3.2 and the quarter mile in 10.71 @ 137.6 mph.
Lingenfelter's 542ci Viper did 60 in 3.3 and the quarter mile in 11.0 @ 134 mph.
Both were done on stock Michelin Pilots.

Even though the Enzo's power to weight ratio is lower than both Vipers (per C&D's curb weight of 3,262 lbs for the Enzo), it has the benefit of traction control and the slick semi-automatic gearbox. Just floor it and shift with the paddles at your fingertips, no drama. The electronics take care of the rest.
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Old 06-17-2003, 09:17 AM   #8
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

I believe it also has a "launch mode" like the new M3's.

Also, a Stage I (stock heads, cam, bottom end, etc) DLM car ran 10.7 or 10.8 at 135+ on stock 18" rubber with Evan Smith from MM&FF's driving.

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Old 06-17-2003, 09:47 AM   #9
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HP is a small contributing factor of speed. Although it is the most easily changeable and can drasticly overcome those other more influential contrubuting factors like drag. I would rather shed 1000 LBS and have 2wice the traction then have an extra 200 HP.

The enzo rules. It is what ferrari needed to redeem themself.

Although its price is sick.
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Old 06-17-2003, 09:47 AM   #10
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0-100 in 6.6 seconds!! I don't care how much it costs. It has bumped the Mclaren F1 right off it's throne in my book. An absolutely spectacular car. I would have one in a heartbeat. I'd have to live in it, doesn't seem like it would be very comfortable to sleep in every night.
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Old 06-17-2003, 09:59 AM   #11
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I saw an ENZO ON THE STREET on saturday afternoon. All you other Chi-towners will know the area and why. I was turning east on to Lake-Cook Rd off of Quentin Rd. 3 ferraris went by coming out of Barrington, red 360 Modena, yellow F355 Berlinieta, and a red what I thought was an F50 at first. When I got to the next light with them and saw the nose, there was no doubt it was a ENZO. Looked awesome. The look alone is worth the price and yes they do have a launch mode. Found out this weekend too that the F1 trans can do all sort of crazy stuff.

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Old 06-17-2003, 10:02 AM   #12
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0-100 in 6.6 seconds!! I don't care how much it costs. It has bumped the Mclaren F1 right off it's throne in my book. An absolutely spectacular car. I would have one in a heartbeat. I'd have to live in it, doesn't seem like it would be very comfortable to sleep in every night.
Maybe so but the McLaren is a much older design. I still think the McLaren F1 is the ultimate road going vehicle. To be able to do 11's in the 1/4 and still have a top speed of 240mph that is something special.
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Old 06-17-2003, 10:26 AM   #13
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To go along with the above post, I think the McLaren looks better than the Enzo, and the F1 ties with the F50 convertible.
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Old 06-17-2003, 10:27 AM   #14
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One of the write ups was about a guy who lives in my area, Dick Losse. I should be getting a ride in his car hopefully this week. One of my best friends is very good friends with him so he is going to hook me up. Maybe he will race but I don't think so. It should be an unforgettable experience. Those cars are the ticket if you have $700,000. They really are beautiful cars. I am curious how it compares to my SC'ed viper. I will keep everyone posted.
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Old 06-17-2003, 11:08 AM   #15
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Default Re: Why does the Enzo Ferrari beat the Viper tuners in 0-60 and quarter mile

A friend of mine has pretty good connections and is unable to obtain an Enzo. This guy has a Lambo Murcielago as his daily driver, and owned one of each of the supercars in the past few years - Porsche 996 Turbo, Ferrari Modena, Maserati. No McLaren, BTW. But try as he may, he has been totally unable to get an Enzo. So, apparently, even if you are willing to spend the bucks, you can't have one anyway!
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