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04-07-2005, 08:21 AM
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Location: Austin, TX
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Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
I put the Roe on this car and I knew it was down on power for the combination the car is running. The car had Belanger headers on it when I did the install. I was of the opinion that the headers were causing the low numbers. I finally convinced the owner to put on some B&B's and here are the results. No change in the VEC tune, NO other changes. Run 1 is a cool run and run 3 is a hot run (I lost RPM on run 2 so I cured that and ran the car again). I will retune today and hopefully see more gains.
DW [img]http://[******]/attach/data/1/506599-Header_Gain.jpg[/img] |
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04-07-2005, 08:26 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
OK, I linked it to the a l l e y, odd it worked in the preview screen but will not show the image in the post. I don't have anywhere to host it so I would be happy to email it to someone. Basically, it picked up 38 power and 70 torque!
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04-07-2005, 08:43 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
I have B&B headers would love to have that proof...I'll send U a PM, email it and I will post it for U
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04-07-2005, 09:10 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
That's a huge difference all across the RPM range! Did the A/F stay the same between the runs? Also, what other mods are on the car besides the headers and SC?
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04-07-2005, 09:28 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
Yeah, I didn't see much gain at all from Belangers on my car. I know lots of folks are Belanger believers, but I'd definitely go with B&B, [******], or TNT headers.
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04-07-2005, 09:36 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
For some reason, I can't get the image to show up, but here is a link to David's dyno graph to make it a little easier to find.
http://gallery.viperclub.org/showpho...sort/1/cat/500 |
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04-07-2005, 09:41 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
So Run 1 is with Belanger headers and Run 2 is with B& B headers. Am I right ?
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04-07-2005, 09:55 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
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04-07-2005, 09:57 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
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04-07-2005, 10:38 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
Is this with the water/Meth kit installed also?
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04-07-2005, 10:48 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
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04-07-2005, 10:53 AM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
Excellent! This is very good information. I currently looking for a complete exhaust setup and was pretty sure I wanted B&B. Now I know for sure, especially since there is a Roe S/C in the future plans too.
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04-07-2005, 12:13 PM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
The real question is.......what time is going to be ready tonight?
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04-07-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
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04-07-2005, 01:41 PM
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Re: Roe S/C with Belanger headers VS B&B headers: Graph inside
Can you speculate why the B&B's put down so much more HP and TQ?
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