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Old 08-31-2005, 08:14 PM   #1
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Hello all.

I am a loyal Zaino guy. Use nothing but Zaino. I recently bought a buffer, just a simple 1 speed 6" buffer. My questions are:

What product should I use when using the buffer? Can I just use the Z-2? How easy is it to screw up a paint job when using a buffer? Any hints, warnings, or advice is greatly appreciated.

I already practiced using an older sander/buffer type on my beater car and I love the results.

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Old 08-31-2005, 09:20 PM   #2
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Not an expert here, but I think there would be little to gain by using a buffer to apply Z2. Z5 or Z-PC would be a different story,(Z5 is useless so just get the PC) there is some abrasive in it. The only buffer you should be working with is a random orbital, otherwise you will ruin your paint. Get a Porter Cable and be careful and you should be fine.
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Old 08-31-2005, 10:34 PM   #3
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Not an expert here, but I think there would be little to gain by using a buffer to apply Z2. Z5 or Z-PC would be a different story,(Z5 is useless so just get the PC) there is some abrasive in it. The only buffer you should be working with is a random orbital, otherwise you will ruin your paint. Get a Porter Cable and be careful and you should be fine.

Whats a porter cable? . I have Z-PC. My buffer is a orbital that has just one speed, will I be ok?

My thoughts are, a coat of Z-PC and then follow it up with a few coats of Z-2. I will probably practice on my beater car. If anyone else has any thoughts or ideas for me please let me know.

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Read up about them here http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-pc7424.html or search this site. What you are describing does not sound like the type of thing I would use on a Viper. It does not sound like a random orbital.
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Old 09-01-2005, 10:58 AM   #5
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Use what the pros use:

http://www.rightlook.com/
I have seen these products in professional detail shops.
I have been using these products, and was asked this past weekend what I use on the car; this was at a car show where "show and shine" is the ultimate.

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Old 09-01-2005, 01:21 PM   #6
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Here is one of the most popular buffers that is well liked here:
http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...082908585#cart

Literally impossible to screw things up with this buffer. I wouldn't use anything else.
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Here is one of the most popular buffers that is well liked here:
http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/S...082908585#cart

Literally impossible to screw things up with this buffer. I wouldn't use anything else.

Thaks to all for your help. What is the difference btwn that buffer and this one:

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...mp;cm_ite=prod

Other than the fact that the first one youcan change speeds (2,500-6,000) while the second one is constant at 4,000.

Also, the main focus to my original question was to learn what to do with the buffer. I mean the steps or the products.

Thanks again
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:36 PM   #8
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In my opinion a buffer is to aggressive for what you want to do. I suggest the Porter Cable Random Orbital Sander from Autotopia (above).

The problem I have had with the buffer is it leaves "Holograms". To much heat...it liqufies the wax and you can't get an even coat. Not to mention you could burn through the clear coat on your car. It's clumsy, throws polish, compound and wax everywhere.



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I have the Griot's garage orbital, LOVE IT. Next to impossible to damage the car

It has 3 levels of polish for getting out swirls to scratches, depending on how deep you want to go into the clearcoat
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