Best way to get Swirls out

[Inferno]

What are some suggestions on the best way to get swirl marks and minor scratches,(scratches that are not down to the body), out? Also, I have 2 or 3 stone chips, has anyone had any luck covering up stone chips, or is it better to wait till there is a bunch and have the front re-painted. Thanks in advance for feedback.

[jeffdai]

i had swirls when i was using wax, when i switched to zaino, used detergent to get all the wax off then a few applications of zaino, all the swirls were gone. Made a million percent difference on the looks of the car, ill never go back to wax on my black car, maybe other colors wouldnt show it as bad but the black sure did

[plumcrazy]

forget zaino...buy liquid glass's product called Liquid Glass carperfect carbon teflon.

BEST wax i ever used. it took out the swirls after 4 or 5 coats. It still looks exactly the same now after 20 or so washes as it looked the first day i applied it. unlike zaino which washes away fast. even with thier zaino BS wash stuff.

you can find thier number here:: http://liquidglass.com/ but THIS product is new and NOT on the site yet. tell them i sent ya.

this stuff is the best around from what i have seen

[Viperbass]

Please note that if you use a wax, you are not actually removing the swirls, but just filling them in to make them less visible. If you really want to remove them a fine polish is needed and an orbital buffer. You can try it by hand, but usually you end up putting more swirls in due to uneven pressure and speed by your hand. Zaino makes a great fine polish that was just released that is excellent on swirls, also you can use 3M swirl mark remover for dark colored cars. Griot's Garage has a fine polish that I have seen work well too.

The key is really to use an orbital buffer and the proper pad or a rotary buffer. I would only recommend using the rotary buffer if you have experience, otherwise heat can build up with this buffer and you can burn through your paint. Heat will not build up with an orbital buffer.

Hope this helps.

Kurt

[GTSPOWERED]

Viperbass has hit the nail on the head. The only way to remove the scratches and swirls is to polish them out. Everyone has there choice in wax/polish and mine is Maguire’s.

Patrick Mathias.

[Bill M]

I like to use 3M Imperial Hand Glaze and follow with a high quality wax.

[Matt M, PA]

I too have found the new Zaino Fusion to be excellent. Used by hand, it is a slightly abrasive paint cleaner...by machine it becomes a more agressive swirl remover. One note though. In some cases, the Fusion will leave what appears to be a slight (wrong word for this) haze. An application of Z2 or Z5 alleviates this.

You see, there are no oils left behind with the water based Fusion. All other scratch removers (and glazes) leave behind an oil that makes the panel shine so that the average guy thinks he did a good job. No oils left behind means a squeeky clean surface to apply your Zaino, or other last step product to. Some of the better products do not adhere well to a panel with oils.

Oh and GTSPOWERED....it's "Meguiar's".

Let's not start a wax war again..huh?

[prm06]

I tried many waxes and polishes on my black 95 and the only one that worked was Liquid Glass. I bought it at Auto Zone. It's about $17.00 a can.

[agentf1]

forget zaino...buy liquid glass's product called Liquid Glass carperfect carbon teflon.

BEST wax i ever used. it took out the swirls after 4 or 5 coats. It still looks exactly the same now after 20 or so washes as it looked the first day i applied it. unlike zaino which washes away fast. even with thier zaino BS wash stuff.

you can find thier number here:: http://liquidglass.com/ but THIS product is new and NOT on the site yet. tell them i sent ya.

this stuff is the best around from what i have seen

I called LG and they did not know anything about this product.

[Joisey J]

[ViperJon]

The kit is being made available ON AN EXCLUSIVE BASIS to Viper Club people at a very affordable price considering that the Carbon/PTFE-6 HAS SOLD FOR $1000.00/pint by itself.

I'm thinking it might be cheaper just to throw the car away and get a new one every time it needs wax.

[plumcrazy]

viperjohnm he's NOT gonna charge US that much. call them.

[Viperbass]

Man, it sounds like I just stepped into a late night info-mertial. One thought, if rock chips are no longer a worry, it must be a pain to strip if you ever need paint work done.

I would be cautious about something that binds that much to paint. That stuff that Zebart sells for cars is awful to remove to fix anything.

Just my 2 cents.

[Matt M, PA]

While this may indeed be the "next great thing", I find it hard to believe that Ferrari has not figured out what all other makers have to avoid acid rain....the white plastic sheeting that is removed by the dealer.

Back on topic. I see the word teflon being thrown around again. Teflon is worthless in a car wax. It does not apply (according to DuPont) until it and the object to be coated are a 640 degrees.

I remember reading similar stories not too long ago about another new product that was to be the best thing ever...and that did not pan out either.

Now I'll wait and see.

[Leslie]

Please note that if you use a wax, you are not actually removing the swirls, but just filling them in to make them less visible. If you really want to remove them a fine polish is needed and an orbital buffer. You can try it by hand, but usually you end up putting more swirls in due to uneven pressure and speed by your hand. Zaino makes a great fine polish that was just released that is excellent on swirls, also you can use 3M swirl mark remover for dark colored cars. Griot's Garage has a fine polish that I have seen work well too.

The key is really to use an orbital buffer and the proper pad or a rotary buffer. I would only recommend using the rotary buffer if you have experience, otherwise heat can build up with this buffer and you can burn through your paint. Heat will not build up with an orbital buffer.

Hope this helps.

Kurt

totally agree, for deeper swirls, scratches, you will need to use an orbital and go into the clearcoat