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Old 07-29-2006, 12:29 PM   #1
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Default 0% emission Vipers/ How serious are you about flipping off OPEC?

Would you put your money and time where your mouth is, to kiss off OPEC? Would you sell or moth balling your current Viper, for an all electric Viper Super Car?

If DC took the lead and had CAAP a produce a high performance but not heavily tested, 0% emission Viper, would you be willing to be one of the first to pay $80k for it and be their test team? This would mean, much like the first RT/10 owners, you’d be willing to be part of the real world testing of this car and not be upset with the many bugs that would have to be worked out over the next few years.

Of course these cars would be beautiful like something out of the movies “I Robot” or “Minority Report”.

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Old 07-29-2006, 01:11 PM   #2
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Default Re: 0% emission Vipers/ How serious are you about flipping off OPEC?

NO. First, IMHO OPEC is not the problem or reason for high(matter of opinion) oil/gas prices. It's supply and demand plain and simple. World demand is increasing with the expansion in China and India and other countries developing over time and increasing their energy(oil/gas) requirements. The Middle East countries have one resource/economy and that is oil. America uses most of it and I don't think we can blame them for making what they can while they have it. Once it's gone they will have nothing but sand. If we had the oil here and exported it we would charge for it too...that's capitalism. Second, I'll stick with my gas guzzling, large displacement, kick asp, internal combustion engine until there is not a drop of oil remaining. Electric power is too slow, quiet and boring. Besides, who says electric recharging is cheap? My electric bill last month was $650 with 2 brand new A/C units with 13 seer rating. Needless to say, I spent a lot less for gas last month in comparison.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:00 PM   #3
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I think it is the Opec's fault of such high gas prices. Espically when them come out and brag that they made 10 billion dollars last year.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:07 PM   #4
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If OPEC only made 10 billion last year, gas would be $0.35 per gallon.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:19 PM   #5
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.35 is good to me.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:24 PM   #6
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Default Re: 0% emission Vipers/ How serious are you about flipping off OPEC?

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Would you put your money and time where your mouth is, to kiss off OPEC? Would you sell or moth balling your current Viper, for an all electric Viper Super Car?

If DC took the lead and had CAAP a produce a high performance but not heavily tested, 0% emission Viper, would you be willing to be one of the first to pay $80k for it and be their test team? This would mean, much like the first RT/10 owners, you’d be willing to be part of the real world testing of this car and not be upset with the many bugs that would have to be worked out over the next few years.

Of course these cars would be beautiful like something out of the movies “I Robot” or “Minority Report”.

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I'd be all for it. I don't care what it runs on, as long as it runs fast, and it has to have outrageous styling.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:24 PM   #7
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Default Re: 0% emission Vipers/ How serious are you about flipping off OPEC?

When Tesla opens in Miami in late 07 I will go and take a serious look.

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Old 07-29-2006, 07:15 PM   #8
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Why do you propose paying $80K for a not heavily tested vehicle?

I worked as GM test driver for 10yrs..be careful what you wish for, especially in today's hi-tech cars. A partially sorted out car can be a real monster.

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I worked as GM test driver for 10yrs..be careful what you wish for, especially in today's hi-tech cars. A partially sorted out car can be a real monster.


All the more reason to keep it LOW TECH
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I think it is the Opec's fault of such high gas prices. Espically when them come out and brag that they made 10 billion dollars last year.
Exxon made $10b last year, one of many, many super-rich oil companies.

But if you made $10b on widgets last year you'd be really pissed off if the government came in and said you could only sell for $.35/ea.

OPEC is just doing what anyone here would be doing - making a mint while the market is good. I can't fault them for a second - its our own danm fault were're paying so much for gas and I for one have no issues with suffering the consequences.
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:53 PM   #11
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Why do you propose paying $80K for a not heavily tested vehicle?

I worked as GM test driver for 10yrs..be careful what you wish for, especially in today's hi-tech cars. A partially sorted out car can be a real monster.



When GM came out with their electric car back in the day. They would only sell to people with 2nd cars and who would work with them on feedback.

I’m just saying, we’ve let OPEC get us by the short hairs and they increase and decrease the supply side of “supply and demand” to squeeze us for all we got. I’m personally willing to under take some hardships to get America back in control of our future.
America has suffered enough hardship to create freedom from hardship we didn’t create to have to put up with this crap. The Middle East needs to start creating their share of world products and services, other than just sucking it out of the ground, and I’d like to be part of putting them on notice.




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Old 07-29-2006, 11:18 PM   #12
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I think it is the Opec's fault of such high gas prices. Espically when them come out and brag that they made 10 billion dollars last year.
Exxon made $10b last year, one of many, many super-rich oil companies.

But if you made $10b on widgets last year you'd be really pissed off if the government came in and said you could only sell for $.35/ea.

OPEC is just doing what anyone here would be doing - making a mint while the market is good. I can't fault them for a second - its our own danm fault were're paying so much for gas and I for one have no issues with suffering the consequences.

whats a widget?
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I think it is the Opec's fault of such high gas prices. Espically when them come out and brag that they made 10 billion dollars last year.
Exxon made $10b last year, one of many, many super-rich oil companies.

But if you made $10b on widgets last year you'd be really pissed off if the government came in and said you could only sell for $.35/ea.

OPEC is just doing what anyone here would be doing - making a mint while the market is good. I can't fault them for a second - its our own danm fault were're paying so much for gas and I for one have no issues with suffering the consequences.
Exxon/Mobil made $10.71 Billion in the 4th quarter of 2005, and $36.13 Billion in total for 2005.
Exxon posted it's earnings report for the second quarter, $10.36 billion, second highest ever by a US company in one quarter (the first being Exxon in Q4 2005).
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Old 07-30-2006, 12:56 AM   #14
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To answer your question...if it were technically possible with a minimum of drawbacks.....yes.
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75% of our fuel price is TAX.
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