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Old 05-15-2008, 06:16 PM   #1
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I am very serious about purchasing this car and i would like to get your feedback on the whole deal. The car... 2001 sapphire blue rt10, cognac interior, 43,000 miles, original owner, bone stock. I didnt have good pics from the seller so a very kind forum member and viper owner who lives close by checked out the car for me and took many revealing pictures. The car has its imperfection that are highlited in the photos. They include scratches and some banged up rims. The seller is convinced that the rims can be repaired and the price reflects the not so perfect condition. he is pretty firm on 34,000 but i think might go 33,000. Please keep in mind i will have to ship this car across the country at a cost between 2000 and 2500. i have a friend with a body shop who can probably buff out some of the paint but im worried about the rims. Its not cheap to buy aftermarket wheels, can those really be fixed? Please be honest and kind and keep in mind that i am 24 and on a strict budget and these pictures were taken to show its flaws, not to make it look good. A few scratches arent the end of the world, most of them can probably be bufffed out or touched up. Thanks in advance for the input.













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Old 05-15-2008, 06:24 PM   #2
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By the way, i know there is a level of class and respect displayed by all members of the VCA and i would be heart broken if anyone were to find the seller and buy the car before i get the chance to. I displayed the information and made my self vulnerable to such an action but im doing it to help a dificult decision. If i decide not to purchase the car i will be more than happy to forward the sellers contact information to any interested parties. Please let me have my chance first, i have a lot of time invested in this so far. Thanks, Kevin
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:32 PM   #3
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that car looks a little beat to me...but it is pretty cheap for that car...but there is obviously a reason for that!...don't be afraid to wait a little longer to find the right car...jmho
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:32 PM   #4
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That seems like a good price even with the shipping cost and "minor" damage. For that price you have to think what else you would get. A 93 94 or 95 (which are nice too)but you get much more in a gen 2.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:44 PM   #5
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Those rims are definitely fixable. I accidentally jumped a curb on my 00 rim just like the ones above. $150 out the door, 2 days. You don't need to buy new rims if you want to keep those.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:48 PM   #6
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i definitely want a gen two and in my range its going to be hard. I love the color on this car and the fact that its an ABS car is even better. At worst i have to buy a rim and deal with a few scratches. Most of them will probably buff out and ill end up having a good 01 for mid 30s
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:55 PM   #7
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I don't think those scratches are going to buff out, they look pretty deep. Also, I wouldn't buy it sight unseen unless you are dealing with a reputable dealer.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:01 PM   #8
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you are right, some of them are a little deep. My friends shop is very good and i think a careful touch up will make them less noticeable. I dont expect miracles, just subtlety.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:02 PM   #9
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you get what you pay for. it seems like a fair deal considering the issues you mentioned. if you want a perfect car, hold off and expect to pay more.

if i were you i would also ask for pics of the interior and engine.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:20 PM   #10
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I understand you situation. My thinking is however, if a car looks like this one does on the outside then what lies beneath.Most of us take sick care of our cars. Scratches like the ones you've shown would make me puke.This car does not tell me that it was pampered.You might want to look a little further, or save up for what you really want.
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you are right, some of them are a little deep. My friends shop is very good and i think a careful touch up will make them less noticeable. I dont expect miracles, just subtlety.
That's what I was going to say. Most any body shop can fix those pretty easliy, won't even know they were there. For $34K, that is a steal. So, by the time you get the car transported and fixed, you might be into it for $37,000. That is a damn good deal for an 01.

Of course, mine has less miles and much fewer scratches
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I'd want a Dodge Dealer checking out the mechanics of the car. There are more than a few stories of guys buying Vipers and having the engines grenade after a few weeks/months. A lot of those scratches will not buff out, most of them in fact. They can be touched up I guess. I also hear a lot of stories about buddies "giving you a deal, etc" I hope he's a good buddy and not a friend of a friend or anything. I'd also want to see the inside of this car. If the outside looks like that, the inside might be a bit ragged. On the bright side, the front fascia is almost always going to look like that, even on a car well taken care of. Rubbing the front happens no matter how careful you are.

After shipping and fixing/replacing your rims you're talking 36-37k. I think you can get a car with half the miles and none of those nasty bumper and sill scratches for right around the same price if you are a little more patient. 37k for a mechanically sound 01 is a good price, but I still don't think it's a "great" deal.

However, this is your first Viper and probably will not be in your possession for very long, it happens. I was your age when I bought my first. Good Luck.
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You are using this one for a DD correct? Frame and engine condition?
Then my vote would be yes if that's good.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:35 PM   #14
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I would keep looking. The wheels can be made to look better, but, a gouge like that will always be noticable (especiallly to you). The body looks rough- my fascia has rubbed, but, that one is torn from a hard hit. Good price for an '01-but I could not live with it. I have an '01, but, it was not had in the 30's.

Have a Viper tech look at the car if the price keeps calling you back.


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Old 05-15-2008, 07:44 PM   #15
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I'm willing to bet for a few thousand more, you can get a better car with less miles. You'll spend 34k on the car, 2k to ship, and then bodywork and painting. After everything is said and done, you'll be close to 40k and for that, you can get a pretty decent gen 2. I picked up mine for 40k almost 2 years ago and it only had 13,9xx miles. The paint and wheels were nearly perfect. Personally, if it were me, I'd pass.

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