ALL MOTOR BUILD!!(Pics)

[crazyspeed]

Originally Posted by Jerome Sparich

The angle of the cross hatch looks like hell. Atleast it does in that pic. It may just be the pic, but I am not too sure it is.

Looks like the hone was moving upward and downward much too fast. That is unless the ring manufacturer calls for such a spec?

Or much to slow????

[Jerome Sparich]

Originally Posted by crazyspeed

Or much to slow????

Correct, much too slow. I can not believe I even made that mistake when I do this for a living.

Damn meds

[2001 GTS]

After further review, there is nothing wrong with the cross hatching

But BIG THANKS TO MIKE (99 RT/10)!!!

The rocker stands I bought were for a GEN3 and Mike came through and sent me his GEN2 stands to keep this build going!!!

[J DAWG]

This is the way to perform a DIY build. Take your time, get some really good parts and enjoy the process. I would say the 600 mark will be achieved easily and I cant wait to see/hear the car. Very nice setup.

J

[Disturbed]

I see a easy 600rwhp in that setup. I'm glade you took my advice and went with the higher CR...you will be happy with it. My motor is REAL happy with that cr.


For the most part, you have the N/A Build I wish I could have done at the time. The only thing I would do different I would add/change would be to make it a 510cid...or use a SRT crank and make it a 522cid stroker. You could use a slightly larger cam and make about 650rwhp.


Get that thing done and well meet up and get some vid of us doing some 50-150mph roll-ons in mexico.

[Camfab]

Your going to love that N/A power! If I go through my motor again, I will go with 11:5/1 as well. Vipers love compression.

[vp97]

Nice list of parts! The stock intake will kill your combo, unless it is heavily ported.

[Camfab]

Originally Posted by vp97

Nice list of parts! The stock intake will kill your combo, unless it is heavily ported.

I run a bone stock manifold with stock throttle bodies, airbox and filters and make 585 RWHP.

[vp97]

I also run a bone stock intake and tbs. My combo is good for 603whp and 610wtq. With such a large cam, he will need rpm and a bunch more air to make his goal of 650.

[2001 GTS]

Originally Posted by vp97

Nice list of parts! The stock intake will kill your combo, unless it is heavily ported.

Greg Good did all he could with the stock intake, but there is another intake in the works for 2009.

[vp97]

Thats good news! I just completed a gen2 stroker with Good heads on it,very similar to your package. With stock tbs and port matched intake, it did 626hp/622tq. It was was starving for air past 5500rpm. I do have a set of 70mm tbs to put on it and then back to the dyno it goes. With your aftermarket manifold, I think it will be well over 650hp but at a much higher rpm. Should be a mean SOB when you get all worked out!

[Disturbed]

All of you N/A guys with over 560rwhp....


...ALL OF YOU CAN RUN HIGH 10'S ALL DAY LONG ON PUMP GAS AND STREET TIRES...

01 GTS is going to have more power than me. I've run 11.01@128mph w/ 1.9 60ft time. I think my ACR has some 10.80's in it. I think when Steve is done...he will have atleast 650rwhp N/A. I bet with some slicks and a few more tricks...he'll be in the 9's.


GO GTS GO

[Camfab]

Originally Posted by Disturbed

All of you N/A guys with over 560rwhp....


...ALL OF YOU CAN RUN HIGH 10'S ALL DAY LONG ON PUMP GAS AND STREET TIRES...

01 GTS is going to have more power than me. I've run 11.01@128mph w/ 1.9 60ft time. I think my ACR has some 10.80's in it. I think when Steve is done...he will have atleast 650rwhp N/A. I bet with some slicks and a few more tricks...he'll be in the 9's.


GO GTS GO

I've been trying to make the 10 sec club, but I get booted after a couple of runs each time. With track days few and far between it's been tough. Hopefully I'll have another chance soon, I just need some new tires. 11.29@129mph 1.8 60 ft. with a really heavy cross wind and an 85 degree air temp.

[2001 GTS]

Originally Posted by Disturbed

I think when Steve is done...he will have atleast 650rwhp N/A. I bet with some slicks and a few more tricks...he'll be in the 9's.

Thats the plan!!

[Greg Good Cylinder Heads]

What some turd heads!

[banton]

Originally Posted by Greg Good Cylinder Heads

What some turd heads!

N/A cars are

And don't even get me started on GG heads......


J/K can't wait to see what the results of this build are, 2001 GTS!

Signed,
N/A GTS 594rwhp/585rwtq

[banton]

Quick 2-part question maybe someone can help provide some info on....I, like several others are still using the stock intake manifold. At what point (what is an indicator) that one would benefit from having it port-match, etc? Secondly, is the power gain mainly at peak or would it provide increased performance throughout the power band?

Thanks in advance!

[hardtop]

If you have ported heads the ported intake will pick up power everywhere.

[banton]

I think you mis-understood my question or more likely, I didn't express myself clearly.

I know the impact of the ported heads, I have those already. My question is regarding porting/modifying the stock intake manifold.

Thanks.

[hardtop]

I've had cars pick up 12-15 rwhp in the midrange with a ported intake, but it need a good set of heads to do it.

[DC Performance]

That looks like a great build. I have found in the past that a few simple things can help get the peak numbers you want. First off, verify your compression ratio. These engines love compression with a big cam. I have had engines pickup 50 rwhp with a point change. You can get a cylinder and combustion chamber volume check tool on line for about $100. Cranking compression should be at least 180 psi (even with that cam). Just changing to a thinner gasket can get you 1/2 point.

Centerline the cam for peak power, you may loose torque down low but will gain power from 5000-6200.

Use a 5 into 1 merge header. 1 5/8ths to 1 3/4 step headers with 29 inch primary tubes and a Burns merge make best peak power. CDI, Archer, SVS and American Racing have made headers like this.

Do not go with too big of an injector, with low vacuum and a big nozzle the engine will be hard to tune down low and will run too rich when cold. This tends to wash the oil out of the rings and cause higher oil consumption.

There are some changes you can make for windage losses as well, this can add some hp.

Just my 2 cents. Hope to see you make those numbers with a NA build.

[Greg Good Cylinder Heads]

Your intake is stock? I thought it was at least port matched.

I've had solid 10-12 hp gains (peak #) reported back to me on the back2back tests done in the past.

Ever upgrade the fuel system?

Greg

Originally Posted by banton

Quick 2-part question maybe someone can help provide some info on....I, like several others are still using the stock intake manifold. At what point (what is an indicator) that one would benefit from having it port-match, etc? Secondly, is the power gain mainly at peak or would it provide increased performance throughout the power band?

Thanks in advance!

[Greg Good Cylinder Heads]

Hey Dan, how are you doing out there?

Steve is one of those guys that makes an awesome customer. Why? Main reason is he listens. The compression is about as high as he should go on pump gasoline, he let me talk him into a bigger cam, the qunch is very tight etc.

I really like N/A horsepower. I hope it does well.

Greg

Originally Posted by DC Performance

That looks like a great build. I have found in the past that a few simple things can help get the peak numbers you want. First off, verify your compression ratio. These engines love compression with a big cam. I have had engines pickup 50 rwhp with a point change. You can get a cylinder and combustion chamber volume check tool on line for about $100. Cranking compression should be at least 180 psi (even with that cam). Just changing to a thinner gasket can get you 1/2 point.

Centerline the cam for peak power, you may loose torque down low but will gain power from 5000-6200.

Use a 5 into 1 merge header. 1 5/8ths to 1 3/4 step headers with 29 inch primary tubes and a Burns merge make best peak power. CDI, Archer, SVS and American Racing have made headers like this.

Do not go with too big of an injector, with low vacuum and a big nozzle the engine will be hard to tune down low and will run too rich when cold. This tends to wash the oil out of the rings and cause higher oil consumption.

There are some changes you can make for windage losses as well, this can add some hp.

Just my 2 cents. Hope to see you make those numbers with a NA build.

[banton]

Originally Posted by Greg Good Cylinder Heads

Your intake is stock? I thought it was at least port matched.

I've had solid 10-12 hp gains (peak #) reported back to me on the back2back tests done in the past.

Ever upgrade the fuel system?

Greg

Hey Greg,

Nope, intake is still untouched. Fuel is still stock too.

Plan on taking care of both in 2009, which should push me over the 600rwhp mark

[Andrew2KRT10]

Nice fingerprint close-up

[2001 GTS]

Originally Posted by Greg Good Cylinder Heads

Hey Dan, how are you doing out there?

Steve is one of those guys that makes an awesome customer. Why? Main reason is he listens. The compression is about as high as he should go on pump gasoline, he let me talk him into a bigger cam, the qunch is very tight etc.

I really like N/A horsepower. I hope it does well.

Greg

Haha...I'm flattered Greg.

But Greg was the biggest help of anybody on what the final specs needed to be and what I needed for it all to work together to shoot for big numbers in the end.

And Dan:

The cam was advanced 2 degrees IIRC.

The 65lb injectors will be scaled down with the Vec3, hope I don't have any problems there.

Steve

[fe4snake]

It looks like a very nice build!

GG did my heads too, I kept the stock pistons and the car dynoed @ 575rwhp. on a 93 deg. day.
My CR is 10.66, and GG did port match the intake manifold.
The stock TB are also ported by DLM, I did keep my stock injectors as per by DLM.
I agree with Dan about the tuning down low with the large injectors. I had the some problem
with my tunning due to my large cam, even with the stock injectors. I still get some idle hang when
engine is cold and when engine is coasting. Need to visit DLM again to correct the problem.

I hope you reach those numbers. Good luck to you.

[2001 GTS]

Nice numbers! I guess my biggest concern will be the tuning, but Joseph Dell said he would help with that.

[2001 GTS]

Can anyone tell me of I am going to have problems with the 65lb injectors? They are low impedance.

[2001 GTS]

Almost there!

Here are some crappy pics from my blackberry:



Up close of the billet valve covers that a friend is making: