Red Line Power Steering Fluid, how to do, where to get ?

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 6, 2007

So I am guessing/hearing that Red Line power steering fluid is still the best option for our cars, to avoid boil-over when doing auto-x events.

How exactly to you change it out in the gen 3's? I know the system (as defined by Janni Cone) for the gen 2, do I do the same thing for the gen 3 ?

Also anyone know where in the Chicago land area, I can go pick some up today ?

Thanks !!

Jon

Steve-Indy · Jul 6, 2007

I get mine from Racers Wholesale Supply here in Indy...the stuff in NOT easy to find.

You can use "Janni's method" on a Gen III...just make SURE that you have the A/C ON while you are cycling the wheels side-to-side so that the fan is running to flush the fan's lines as well. I just did this yesterday on our 03...flushed with 2 quarts of Mopar ATF+4, then filled with same.

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 6, 2007

oh, so you flushed with "stock" stuff, and then filled with Red Line afterwards?

With Janni's system, you just **** out the bowl, fill it back up with redline, then go side to side, a few times, shut off the car, **** it back out again, refill again with redline, and then go side to side, and top off whatever you need.

I have 13k miles on my power steering fluid, I dont know that its going to be that big of a deal for me to flush it, especially since the fluid is less then 1 year old. (2006 coupe)

Jon

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 6, 2007

Ps. Just spoke with a company in Chicago called (sorry if I get this wrong) PGH motor Sports 773-884-3340 who is going to start carrying it. They have it for 9.95 a quart, and the guy is talking about running down to the warehouse to get the stuff just for me, even though its a bit of a drive. So if he does it, he definitely just earned a customer for life !!

Jon

ROCKET62 · Jul 6, 2007

Procedure for 2005 Viper:

STANDARD PROCEDURE - FLUSHING POWER
STEERING SYSTEM
WARNING: SAFETY GOGGLES SHOULD BE WORN
AT ALL TIMES DURING THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE
TO AVOID PERSONAL INJURY.
Flushing is required when the power steering system
fluid has become contaminated. Contaminated
fluid in the steering system can cause seal deterioration
and affect steering gear spool valve operation.
(1) Raise the front end of the vehicle off the
ground enough to allow the front wheels to freely
turn.
(2) Remove the return hose from the pump.
(3) Plug the return hose port on the pump.
(4) Place the open end of the return hose into a
large container to catch the draining fluid.
WARNING: ENGINE WILL BE RUNNING AS FLUID IS
ADDED TO PUMP FLUID RESERVOIR. TO AVOID
PERSONAL INJURY, BEWARE OF MOVING ENGINE
PARTS.
CAUTION: Do not reuse any drained power steering
fluid. Use only fresh MoparT power steering fluid or
equivalent.
(5) While an assistant is carefully filling the pump
reservoir with fresh power steering fluid, start the
engine.
(6) With the engine running at idle, turn the wheel
back and forth.
CAUTION: Do not contact or hold the wheel against
the steering stops.
(7) Run approximately a quart of fluid through the
system, then stop the engine and install the return
hose back on the pump.
(8) Fill the system with fresh fluid and perform
the Power Steering Pump Initial Operation procedure
listed in this section of the service manual
(Refer to 19 - STEERING/PUMP - STANDARD PROCEDURE).
(9) Start the engine and allow it to run for fifteen
minutes, then stop the engine.
(10) Remove the return hose from the pump and
plug the return hose port on the pump.
(11) Pour fresh power steering fluid into the reservoir
and check the fluid draining from the return
hose for contamination. If the fluid is still contaminated,
disassemble and clean the power steering
components as necessary, then repeat the system
flush again as outlined above.
(12) Install the return hose back on the pump,
then perform the Power Steering Pump Initial Operation
procedure (Refer to 19 - STEERING/PUMP -
STANDARD PROCEDURE).

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 6, 2007

Thats a little more work, but I might just do it

Janni · Jul 6, 2007

After having a leak in this setup - disconnecting it isn't worth it, IMO. The connectors are NOT user friendly.

Been flushing the comp coupe this way for 3 seasons now - never broken the lines loose.....

I am a firm believer in "if it's not leaking, don't break it open unless you have to".......

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 6, 2007

nuff said, back to the janni system for me. !! going to do it right now !!

Steve-Indy · Jul 7, 2007

Sorry to be mis-leading. I do use "Jann's method" for ALL of our Vipers (as do several respected Viper Techs that I know)...BUT, the FILL depends on the year and the use of the Viper. I use the Redline for Gen I and II TRACK CARS owned by friends who either work on their cars at my house or ask me to help them (with my equipment) at their house. I do use the "Mopar Power Steering Fluid" in our Gen I's and Gen II's.

As noted above, I recently converted our 2003 SRT-10 ( whose "factory fill" AND post "power steering recall" was fill was "Mopar Power Steering Fluid") to the CURRENT SRT-10 fluid which is labeled "Mopar ATF+4" in the quart size (labeled as "Power Steering Fluid+4" in the pint bottles)...both of which fluids are "MS 9602".

I hope that this clarifies my situation.

Racer Robbie · Jul 9, 2007

Summit has it in stock too.

Robbie

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RED%2D30404&N=700+400236+115&autoview=sku

2002_Viper_GTS_ACR · Jul 10, 2007

So is Redline still the prefered fluid in the 03 and ups? Or is the stock stuff just as good/better?

Jon

Racer Robbie · Jul 10, 2007

If my viper was under warranty I would use what the factory specifies. Seeing there have been recalls and TSB's on the power steering systems in our vipers I would stick with the factory Mopar part number. Be aware as posted above that there are 2 types of fluid used on 2003 vipers, and perhaps later ones. You can not interchange them. My 2003 has 20,000 miles on it with the original factory fluid. It has not used any fluid at all. I believe the proper power steering fluid is as follows but I am not 100% sure. Can anyone confirm this?
MOPAR

04883077

POWER STEERING FLUID, CLEAR TYPE, MS-5931

Robbie

Racer Robbie · Jul 11, 2007

I believe the proper power steering fluid is as follows but I am not 100% sure. Can anyone confirm this?

MOPAR

04883077

POWER STEERING FLUID, CLEAR TYPE, MS-5931

Robbie

Viper Specialty · Jul 11, 2007

The above listed fluid is for 2003's that havent updated to ATF+4 ONLY. Do NOT mix ATF+4 and the above fluid!

I say again, 2004+ cars use AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID, they do not use power steering fluid in the PS system. As such, I would not recemend putting a PS fluid in there, of ANY type.

Racer Robbie · Jul 17, 2007

Dan,
Thank you for the confirmation. I have a 2003 with the original fluid with zero problems.

Robbie

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