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Old 04-08-2003, 09:11 PM   #1
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OUR PRESIDENT

Whether you actually like George W. or not.... This has some interesting
thoughts... First, an observation. Have you noticed a difference in the
salute given by our military men and women as President Bush walks by?

Most folks would not notice anything, but those of us who have served in the
military see it right away. Next time, Watch: When President Bush leaves
his helicopter or Air Force One, the honor guards salute and face him as he
disembarks then turn their faces towards him as he passes by. They continue
to salute his back as he walks away. This kind of salute has not been seen
in the previous eight years, though it is customary courtesy to the
Commander-in-Chief.

You see, soldiers aren't required to turn and face the
President as they salute. They are not required to salute his back. They are
only required to salute. They can remain face-forward the entire time. And
that is what they did during the previous administration. Our soldiers were
forced to obey his orders, but they were not forced to respect him. From
their salutes, we can surmise that they did not.

Why is such respect afforded to President Bush? He doesn't even know how
to bite his lower lip and not get teary-eyed whenever he speaks!

The following incident from Major General Van Antwerp may give us an insight. Gen. Antwerp
is president of the Officers' Christian Fellowship. He lost nearly all his staff when the Pentagon was attacked Sept. 11. His executive officer LTC Brian Birdwell was badly burned and was in the hospital when President Bush visited him. Our President spent time and prayed with Brian. As he was getting ready to leave, he went to the foot of Brian's bed and saluted. He held his salute until Brian was able to raise his burned and bandaged arm, ever so slowly, in return. The Commander-in-Chief almost never initiates a salute, except in the case of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner. The injured soldier did not have to return the salute. But he did,
out of respect to his President ...-a Soldiers' President.

Congressman JC Watts (R. Oklahoma) said, "Character is doing the right thing
when nobody is looking," (My favorite quote of all time.) The nation and world learned some of what our last President did when nobody was looking.
That President has been disbarred. The worst disgrace (other than imprisonment) to a lawyer. CNN will have a difficult time shining his or his wife's tarnished images. In this time of war and danger, I am so grateful to have a President whom the soldiers salute -- fully.

On Special Report with Brit Hume, at the close of the show when they normally have some funny video clip, they showed President Bush and the First Lady on their way to Maine to leave for Camp David for the weekend. As the video starts, the First Lady is leading the way into the helicopter with the spaniel dog on the leash, and the president is right behind her with the Scotty on the leash. As the First Lady entered the chopper, the Marine at the gangway saluted and held his salute. The Scottie the president was walking decided it wanted to sit right when he got to the steps. The president pulled on its leash, but the stubborn Scottie persisted in sitting. The president bent down and scooped up the pooch and entered Marine One.
After he entered, the Marine cut his salute and returned to the position of attention.

Moments later the President reemerged from the helicopter and out onto the steps. The Marine was standing at attention, head and eyes straight ahead. The President leaned over and tapped him on the left arm. The startled Marine turned his body toward the President and received his returned salute!

I was so impressed by this true act of respect for our military people by our
President! He really does get it. Most any other person of his stature would
have just continued his journey, disregarding the neglected return salute.
Not George W. Bush. He is earning the respect of the military community, not
expecting it -- as most have and would. President George W. Bush. The man
who admitted to having a drinking problem in younger years, and whose happy-go-lucky lifestyle led him to mediocre grades in college and an ill-fated oil venture. Who mangled syntax, and whose speaking missteps became known as "Bushisms." He came within a hair's breadth of losing the election in November. Bush named Jesus Christ, The Messiah as Lord of his life on public TV. Not an Oblique reference to being "born-again" or having a "life change." He actually said the un-PC-like phrase, "Jesus Christ!"

On September 11, he was thrust into a position only known by the likes of Roosevelt, Churchill, Lincoln, and Washington. The weight of the world was on
his shoulders, and the responsibility of a generation was on his soul. So President George W. Bush walked to his seat at the front of the National Cathedral just three days after two of the most impressive symbols of American capitalism and prosperity virtually evaporated. When the history of this time is written, it will be acknowledged by friend and foe alike that President George W. Bush came of age in that cathedral and lifted a nation off its knees.

In what was one of the most impressive exhibitions of self-control in presidential history, President George W. Bush was able to deliver his remarks without losing his resolve, focus, or confidence. God's hand, which guided him through that sliver-thin election, now rested fully on him. As he walked back to his seat, the camera angle was appropriate. He was virtually alone in the scene, alone in that massive place with God, just him and the Lord. Back at his seat, George H. Bush reached over and took his son's hand. In that gesture his father seemed to say, "I wish I could do this for you, son, but I can't. You have to do this on your own."

President George W. Bush squeezed back and gave him a look of peace
that said, "I don't have to do it alone, Dad. I've got Help." What blessing to have a professing Christian as President. Please take a moment after you read this to "pray for him." He truly does have the weight of the world on his shoulders.

Pray that God will sustain him and give him wisdom and discernment in his decisions. Pray for his protection and that of his family. And after you have prayed, send this to everyone on your e-mail list. Our President needs Christians, Jews, Democrats and Republicans alike, to be praying for him. As this makes the e-mail rounds, eventually there could literally be millions of people praying for him, and for our Great Country....





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Old 04-09-2003, 01:14 AM   #2
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He might not be the greatest public speaker, but those who are really good at it, like Clinton, impress me as being the most phony snakes of all, and I'd rather have a president that has some guts, even if he stammers a bit, and doesn't have a big rap of b.s. that streams out of his mouth like Clinton was so good at.

Anyway, public speaking is not the most important attribute of a great president. The single most important thing to me, is CHARACTER. (of which Clinton had none, zero, zilch, nada)

I thought it was great the way Texas executes people who deserve it.

My dad was a prison guard in New York, which was mired in this liberal malaise, where no one in the State gubmint had the guts to meet out justice. We spent millions of taxpayers dollars to shelter, feed, and generally support the most vile murderers, rapists, child molesters, year after year, and for what? They get out early due to overcrowding, released back onto the street to prey on society all over again. My dad saw the same felons in and out of prison over the years, like a revolving door.

The liberals who protest the death penalty often take the 6th commandment out of context, "Thou Shalt Not Kill", and erroneously try to apply this to the death penalty, saying "Who are we to judge who gets to live or die?", and other such seemingly Christian sounding non-sense. In the New Testament, Jesus interpreted the 6th commandment as "Thou Shalt do NO murder", in the personal sense as it was originally intended, and not in the general sense, as if it applied to any and all circumstances. It means that you shall not murder anyone for personal gain, jealousy, and the like. If you read on in that same book, it goes on to specify the death penalty for many crimes, murder, rape, and even more. So obviously, the meaning of the 6th commandment can't be that "any and all killing" is universally wrong, and to claim so is to obfuscate the clear intent and meaning of the text. Ok, I'm done with that one.

Whether the death penaly is a deterrent or not is NOT the issue. The death penalty is fair recommpense for certain crimes, deterrent or not, and it is JUSTICE, and in keeping with Biblical and Godly principles. Even if it isn't a deterrent, (and I'm not saying that it isn't, just leaving that statistical game out of the conversation for now in the sake of brevity), where was I, oh, yes, even if the death penalty is not a deterrent, it is still the fair reward that a civilized society meets out to those that refuse to live peacefully.

Probably because I have some exposure to the laughable "correctional institutions", due to my father being a prison gaurd, I took certain satsifaction in seeing Bush's administration in Texas carrying out fair and warranted executions, and not timidly either. Here, here! 'Bout time! Good for Bush.

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Old 04-09-2003, 10:25 AM   #3
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I like him and will vote for him again. Unlike the last one who held that office, he has backbone.
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:13 AM   #4
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Thank God we have a REAL man in office.
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:14 AM   #5
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Bush is a good President.
Clinton was a total embarrassment.

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Old 04-09-2003, 11:58 AM   #6
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Hmm, which of the two presidents will have a legitimate legacy?
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Macedo, what kinda legacy are you talking about?? Bush is a President for this country. He is making history as we speak. What kinda legacy would you call CLINTON??? A nice BJ legacy. I wouldn't even put him in that category. Finally, FINALLY..A MAN THAT STANDS BY HIS WORD..I HOPE HE CLEANS HOUSE.....

What happened to all these countries against us?????I dont here any $hit anymore. Now the little mouse( N.Korea) is starting its bull$hit. I hope we don't let them get away from anything. Kurtz, excellent post dude.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A!!!!!!! :
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I think that President Bush is doing a great job.
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Old 04-09-2003, 02:59 PM   #9
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Hmm, which of the two presidents will have a legitimate legacy?
I don't think you should be allowed to vote if you cannot read a simple ballot, vote, then count them...Same reason we don't subject retards to the death penalty...It just ain't right...

Florida botched their elections in 2000 and 2002...Are you all going for the tri-fecta in '04??? We're all pullin for ya!!!
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Bush has to be good to the soldiers, next time he's see's them they will be in a pine box.
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Bush has to be good to the soldiers, next time he's see's them they will be in a pine box.

Care to elaborate on this? What is your point here?
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Think of it like this..

The electorial college knew enough to know that Clinton was a f*****g disgrace to our presidency and country. A criminal to put it lightly. A nice little "Florida Ballot b.s" and we can easily sway Bush in office rather than Clintons' biatch..
Isn't democracy grand?
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George W. kicked azz. Love him! I'm with Toby T - what the heck are you talking about Cajun? Show some f'ing respect when you talk about soldiers coming back home. We lost some very brave souls from the US and UK.

These people put their life on the line, so what is this pine box wise-crack?

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The Liberals are just pissed because they were WRONG on the war...I am predicting a landslide for the Republicans in 2004...a repeat of the 2002 mid-terms...you heard it here first...

CajunViper...do you reside North or South of I10...your response will give others insight as to your genetic make up...
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My opinion on this subject-2 thumbs up to President Bush for having the guts and courage to pull the trigger.Shame on our deadbeat Government for not supporting U.S.troops when they needed us .
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