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Old 06-26-2008, 03:53 PM   #1
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They voted 5-4 that states can NOT execute child rapists. I just can't fathom that 5 people sitting on America's highest court can be so damned stupid. I thought the choices for President were questionable. Compared to these maggots, the Presidential nominees look good as gold. They are NO better than the child rapists they are protecting. For every future raped child, part of the blame will be on these 5 people. I hope they can sleep at night....actually, I hope they can't. Kinda like a child who gets raped will never be able to have a good night's sleep again. Hopefully this will result in a DRAMATIC increase in vigilante justice when it comes to child rape cases. Screw the damned courts, for every raped child, I hope someone buys a sawed off shotgun and blasts a hole the size of a basketball through the chest of the rapist. Either that, or the rapist can go to jail, where he can watch TV, lift weights, play basketball, have conjugal visits and rape again when he gets out on good behavior in 3 years
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:58 PM   #2
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Hi Chad. I was also disappointed in the decision. I agree with the dissent. Note that advocates for child's rights praised the decision. They did not like Louisiana's law because they were fearful that if a child rapist knew he or she might face the death penalty that he or she would have an incentive to kill the child. My guess is that the the psyche of the rapist/killer is generally different than the rapist and the stated fear may be unsupported by the available data, if any, on the subject. There is one thing for sure, an executed child rapist does not reoffend. The opinion is one of those decisions that raises the question: "What planet do these people live on?" How can five highly intelligent, reasonable people think that death is a cruel and unusual punishment for someone who rapes a child? They held that the punishment was not proportional to the crime. Nonsense. Part of the child who is raped dies forever. Trust is permanently impaired. A death sentence is totally appropriate. With that said, there are people that are against the death penalty for any crime. But they should not be sitting on the Supreme Court. Hopefully, if Obama is elected, such a person will not make it onto the Court.

On another front, the Supreme Court, on a 5 to 4 basis, for the first time interpreted the Second Amendment and supported our constitutional right to bear arms. So the next time a child rapist comes through a window in Washington D.C. at least the parent can take out his or her weapon and kill the person.
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You can bet the boys will have a great time with someone who rapes a child. They will wish they was dead...Adrian
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Once he is removed from death row, he will probably be segregated from the general population. States are afraid of law suits by the surviving relatives of these monsters if the monster is killed when left in the general population. In some quarters, leaving the convicted child rapist in the general population is viewed as an administrative execution.
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Once he is removed from death row, he will probably be segregated from the general population. States are afraid of law suits by the surviving relatives of these monsters if the monster is killed when left in the general population. In some quarters, leaving the convicted child rapist in the general population is viewed as an administrative execution.
Not too long ago, last year I believe, ex-priest & child rapist Geoghan was killed in prison in just a matter of weeks. In that case, the system worked just fine.
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Hi Chad. I was also disappointed in the decision. I agree with the dissent. Note that advocates for child's rights praised the decision. They did not like Louisiana's law because they were fearful that if a child rapist knew he or she might face the death penalty that he or she would have an incentive to kill the child. My guess is that the the psyche of the rapist/killer is generally different than the rapist and the stated fear may be unsupported by the available data, if any, on the subject. There is one thing for sure, an executed child rapist does not reoffend. The opinion is one of those decisions that raises the question: "What planet do these people live on?" How can five highly intelligent, reasonable people think that death is a cruel and unusual punishment for someone who rapes a child? They held that the punishment was not proportional to the crime. Nonsense. Part of the child who is raped dies forever. Trust is permanently impaired. A death sentence is totally appropriate. With that said, there are people that are against the death penalty for any crime. But they should not be sitting on the Supreme Court. Hopefully, if Obama is elected, such a person will not make it onto the Court.

On another front, the Supreme Court, on a 5 to 4 basis, for the first time interpreted the Second Amendment and supported our constitutional right to bear arms. So the next time a child rapist comes through a window in Washington D.C. at least the parent can take out his or her weapon and kill the person.
Hi Bob,

I agree with what you said 100%. When a child is raped, it is very likely they'll never fully recover. For this, the punishment should be cruel and unusual. For it now to be unconstitutional to even stick a needle in their arm and let the rapist simply go to sleep is revolting. All I can think of is, the 5 "justices" (calling them "justices" is a JOKE!) are either present child rapists or planning on raping children in the future and are covering theirselves incase they get caught. I do not agree that a person is more likely to kill the child if he knows he may possibly get the death penalty if caught. If you are demented enough to rape a child, you lack the ability to think clearly anyway. They simply want sexual gratification and attack children because they are the easiest targets. They don't even think about the consequences. Whether they die for the crime or get 1 yr probation for it, all they care about is hurting children and satisfying their own sick needs. I forget the statistic but its a VERY high # of rapists that are released from jail will commit the same crime again. A death penalty is not only a punishment for their crime but the ONLY 100% way to GUARANTEE they never attack and destroy the life of a child again. I bet if someone challenged the child rape law in general, the same 5 maggots would vote to make child rape LEGAL.

The decision today to allow US citizens to bear arms is nothing but a way to get the news off the fact of their SCREWUP yesterday when they made the ruling about child rapists. Much like when Clinton bombed some unknown country a day or 2 after news of his affair with Monica Lewinsky was released. It would be very ironic (and poetic justice) if someone decides to take justice into his own hands and takes out a child rapist with a gun that he started carrying after today's ruling. I'm hoping it happens often.
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[quote=Bobpantax;2551859]Once he is removed from death row, he will probably be segregated from the general population. States are afraid of law suits by the surviving relatives of these monsters if the monster is killed when left in the general population. In some quarters, leaving the convicted child rapist in the general population is viewed as an administrative execution.[/quote

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You're 100% correct I forgot they (rapist) have rights _U_K_N_ amazing. What is happen to our country Adrian
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Once he is removed from death row, he will probably be segregated from the general population. States are afraid of law suits by the surviving relatives of these monsters if the monster is killed when left in the general population. In some quarters, leaving the convicted child rapist in the general population is viewed as an administrative execution.[/quote

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You're 100% correct I forgot they (rapist) have rights _U_K_N_ amazing. What is happen to our country Adrian
Very true Adrian. A country that gives rights to child rapists, murderers, etc. is ludicrous. Then to make it possible for the family to sue if the animal is hurt or killed in prison is even more of a joke! They didn't belong in prison in the 1st place. They belong in a cemetery! Or, to be more just, they belong in a city dump somewhere. You'll never convince me a person who can commit a crime like that deserves a proper burial. Throw them in the back of a garbage truck on garbage day and let them rot in a landfill somewhere. They are trash, they deserve to spend eternity beside trash.

I will say the idea of a child rapist in the general prison population is a nice thought as well. Don't drop the soap.
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If I were the victim's father, they wouldn't make it to prison.
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"Well, I heard some noises in the house, and got up to see what it was. I accidentally set off my Desert Eagle .50 AE.....and....I guess I gave the rapist a 3rd nostril....about the size of diesel truck's exhaust pipe.....my bad."

While I understand the whole "if they know they're going to get juiced, they'll kill the child they raped" theory, the converse could also work: If they know they're going to get the needle for EITHER CRIME, maybe they won't do it AT ALL.

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A child is considered anyone under the age of 18. In light of society's acceptance of teen pregnancies these days and the ease in which someone can be wrongfully convicted of statutory rape, the death penalty seems a little dangerous.

Besides, I'm pro vigilantism. I have no faith in our justice system anyway.
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Hi Chuck. The Louisiana statute at issue allowed the death penalty when the victim was twelve or younger or sixty five or older. See below excerpt from the case. Also, these are aggravated situations where the evidence is far more than a single ID with no physical evidence. The evidence here is too graphic and too disturbing to post.

The State charged petitioner with aggravated rape of a child under La. Stat. Ann. §14:42 (West 1997 and Supp. 1998) and sought the death penalty. At all times relevant to petitioner's case, the statute provided:
"A. Aggravated rape is a rape committed ... where the anal or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without lawful consent of the victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:
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"(4) When the victim is under the age of twelve years. Lack of knowledge of the victim's age shall not be a defense.
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"D. Whoever commits the crime of aggravated rape shall be punished by life imprisonment at hard labor without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
"(1) However, if the victim was under the age of twelve years, as provided by Paragraph A(4) of this Section:
"(a) And if the district attorney seeks a capital verdict, the offender shall be punished by death or life imprisonment at hard labor without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence, in accordance with the determination of the jury."
(Since petitioner was convicted and sentenced, the statute has been amended to include oral intercourse within the definition of aggravated rape and to increase the age of the victim from 12 to 13. See La. Stat. Ann. §14:42 (West Supp. 2007).)
Aggravating circumstances are set forth in La. Code Crim. Proc. Ann., Art. 905.4 (West 1997 Supp.). In pertinent part and at all times relevant to petitioner's case, the provision stated:
"A. The following shall be considered aggravating circumstances:
"(1) The offender was engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated rape, forcible rape, aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated burglary, aggravated arson, aggravated escape, assault by drive-by shooting, armed robbery, first degree robbery, or simple robbery.
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"(10) The victim was under the age of twelve years or sixty-five years of age or older."
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What is further dubfounding is that the vote was 5-4 in both cases. Should have been 9-0 easily.
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Nice to see you members feel this way. I have a couple of friends that work at the prison in Leavenworth. The inmates DO take special interest in any inmate who commits crimes against children. The guards somehow are not in the area when special treatment is administered.
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Close the windows in the prison and turn on the gas. That way we have more room for new offenders instead of letting them go due to overcrowding. When Lincoln was assinated, the people convicted were led out of the courtroom and hung. Let's go back to old fashioned justice.
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