Forums Media Gallery Classifieds Chat Membership Marketplace How-Tos
Go Back   Viper Club of America Discussion Forums > General Non-Viper Discussion > Sneaky Pete's Place
Register All AlbumsBlogs FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Sneaky Pete's Place The place to gather to swap stories about non-Viper related issues or events and to hold non-Viper related casual but serious discussions. Intended to be for the "non-jokers" of the community.
Sponsored By: GP Motorsports "Arrive and Drive"

Reply
Old 06-28-2008, 10:37 AM   #1
2snakes4us

Kansas City VCA Member
 
2snakes4us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nixa , MO
Posts: 568



Default Obama not citizen?

Ok...let the replys fly

SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY, WELL HERE IT IS.

This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media
handles this...

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth,
which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of
President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what
exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone, his parents were both US Citizens.

US Law very clearly states: '. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent
musthave resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.'
Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen which is a known fact.

Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for
10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack
Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years
elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have
needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural
citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . .. but that
would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack
Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one
who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those
years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might
have had, rather than living in Indonesia . This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the
Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected
President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets
because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next few months.
__________________
The harder you work for it...the more you appreciate it.
Stock 94 RT/10
Stock 02 GTS FE #72
2snakes4us is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2008, 11:59 AM   #2
plumcrazy

NY/CT VCA Member
 
plumcrazy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: NNJ
Posts: 7,454



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

check snopes ?
__________________
510 Stroker, Greg Good heads, DLM Paxton, Rebuilt and Tuned by DLM. Still need more boost and a small shot of nitrous...
plumcrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2008, 12:20 PM   #3
Bobpantax

FL VCA Member

 
Bobpantax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Miami
Posts: 1,704



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

Anyone born inside the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Each year, pregnant women intentionally travel to the U.S. when they are near the DOB so that their children will be U.S. citizens when they are born. The law that you are referring to concerns children born outside the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents.
__________________
Venom Member
Things go better with boost.
"Viper" is the gearhead word for fun.
Bobpantax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2008, 07:51 PM   #4
texas_venom

Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Buellton, California
Posts: 106



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobpantax View Post
Anyone born inside the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Each year, pregnant women intentionally travel to the U.S. when they are near the DOB so that their children will be U.S. citizens when they are born. The law that you are referring to concerns children born outside the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents.

He starts of the post by saying the laws at the time of Barak's birth. Not the current laws...
texas_venom is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2008, 08:05 PM   #5
PhoenixGTS

Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix Arizona
Posts: 1,825



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobpantax View Post
Anyone born inside the United States is automatically a U.S. citizen regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Each year, pregnant women intentionally travel to the U.S. when they are near the DOB so that their children will be U.S. citizens when they are born. The law that you are referring to concerns children born outside the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents.
Yep that is the end of the whole conspiracy. He was born in Hawaii which even though not yet a state was a territory. When Hawaii was made a state everyone born before it became a state was and is considered an natural born citizen of the US of A (perhaps even before). Easy question.

Example: my state Arizona was a territory until February 14, 1912. Barry Goldwater was born here in Arizona on January 2, 1909. I believe even before, but for sure after Arizona became a state Senator Goldwater became a natural born citizen of the US of A and was of course elegible for the presidency.
PhoenixGTS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2008, 08:15 PM   #6
Chopper

Virginia Maryland VCA Member

 
Chopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Williamsburg, Va.
Posts: 236



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

Geez,kinda had me goin for a minute.
Chopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2008, 12:53 AM   #7
RobZilla

Florida VCA Member
 
RobZilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 446



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

I lost my chubby. Someone find another reason, quick.

NObama
__________________
'00 Black RT/10- Mod'd
RobZilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2008, 07:14 AM   #8
DrDJ

Virginia Maryland VCA Member
 
DrDJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chesapeake, Virginia
Posts: 773



Default Re: Obama not citizen?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2snakes4us View Post
Ok...let the replys fly

SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY, WELL HERE IT IS.

This came from a USNA alumnus. It'll be interesting to see how the media
handles this...

Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth,
which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of
President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what
exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone, his parents were both US Citizens.

US Law very clearly states: '. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent
musthave resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.'
Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen which is a known fact.

Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for
10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack
Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years
elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have
needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.
Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural
citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . .. but that
would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack
Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one
who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those
years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might
have had, rather than living in Indonesia . This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the
Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected
President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets
because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next few months.

Thanks for bringing us more email scam and spam. Why don't you try hitting the forward button on your email and sending it to your two friends instead of posting it here?

DrDJ
DrDJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Obama The Politician GR8_ASP Sneaky Pete's Place 0 06-22-2008 09:17 AM
Jerry Molen on Obama RX VIPER Sneaky Pete's Place 11 06-11-2008 09:21 AM
A re-cap video on Obama so far...... Andrew/USPWR Sneaky Pete's Place 17 05-23-2008 05:56 AM
Obama for president........??? musicncars Sneaky Pete's Place 7 05-20-2008 01:40 PM
Obama for America? 2snakes4us Sneaky Pete's Place 69 03-31-2008 06:59 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:45 AM.


Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0