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Old 04-11-2008, 09:07 AM   #16
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Sean: We're into 480's rwhp right now with the VECII...does this SCT override the VECII? OR does it INCLUDE the VECII's tune? Curious how it works with the VEC....would we GAIN much more than we already have or not? That's Mike's question for ya! THX~~~juli
Hi Juli,

Would you gain any more HP than a VEC tune? Comparing ideal tune to ideal tune, no. However, there's a little more to it that as the SCT, being able to reprogram all the stock parameters, can do things the VEC can't. If the SCT's had been around six years ago, the VEC2 and 3 would not exists. All future SC kits we make / ship (starting in May) will be with SCT's instead (including the Gen3 kit which I've been working a lot of different angles on lately, as in, I have three different hoods beyond the stock '03 from the car, 4 manifolds and three different compressors as it seems like new products coming available are allowing me to change the fit and design FOR THE BETTER).

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Old 04-11-2008, 09:13 AM   #17
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Hi Sean...thanx for your reply! So, since we've already got the VECII, and spent mega-bucks for a couple years now getting it tuned, it's probably best we stay with that program. Thank you for the explanation...and I see WHY the SCT would be included with s/c's....so that means you HAVE the GenIII s/c available, but we'd need a different hood, is that what you mean? THX again!!! ~juli
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:27 AM   #18
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A few questions before I commit.

Can you turn off the skip shift with the tuner?

Can you make the fan turn on sooner and/or run longer?

Is this only for N/A cars or will it work on forced induction as well?

I am also concerened about my fuel pump not being able to handle much more power. I have heard they are good up to about 650. I think with a good tune and my planned mods I will be way over that. Do you sell aftermarket pumps that can handle more than stock?

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, we have the skip shift function turned off in all the tunes we create.

Yes, we set the fans to come on at a lower temperature. We lower both the low and high speed activation points by 12 degrees (stock low activates at 207 and high at 217).

With custom tuning, at the vehicle, forced induction and heads / cam cars with different injectors can be programmed. However, this takes some time at the dyno and is done specifically for that car (unless someone builds a second car / engine that's identical). Before pulling the trigger on an SCT for a forced induction or heads / cam car, find out if anyone in your area has the SCT software to tune it. You can buy a single user version, allowing you to do everything you / your tuner to do everything. The software is available from SCT and is "about" $1350.

This group buy should be considered for engines with "standard" bolt ons, up to adding cylinder heads. Because camshafts change vacuum, we should consider those to require the cutom tuning I spoke about in the paragrah above.

Regarding fuel pumps, you're correct that stock Gen2 pumps with a voltage booster can support around 650 RWHP. Adding a water /methanol injection system can gain you enough to support up to 710 RWHP. We've built some custom fuel pump setups for Vipers in the shop making 900 RWHP, but as far as a "kit" goes, no, we don't have anything. I think David Weaver at American Racing Tech in Texas has a twin Walboro pump setup available.
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Hi Sean...thanx for your reply! So, since we've already got the VECII, and spent mega-bucks for a couple years now getting it tuned, it's probably best we stay with that program. Thank you for the explanation...and I see WHY the SCT would be included with s/c's....so that means you HAVE the GenIII s/c available, but we'd need a different hood, is that what you mean? THX again!!! ~juli
Yes on the hood. The '08 or the Vipair '08 style are what we're fitting it under. I just couldn't get it under the stock '03-06 hood.
I'm trying to get a few kits on some cars now for a controlled test group. Need to run on more than just mine before releasing. I'm keeping quiet until then. Should have kept my mouth shut a couple years ago as I didn't count on some rather long business and personal delays / time killers.
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SCT informs me that end user adjustability on the device will come with time and we'll have that available as a free upgrade. This will allow you to change the timing and fuel within a sepcifice range from the tunes we provide. Other features may apply also.

Also when SCT finishes up the software the DC Xcal 2 will be a full blown high speed data logger.
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Yes on the hood. The '08 or the Vipair '08 style are what we're fitting it under. I just couldn't get it under the stock '03-06 hood.
I'm trying to get a few kits on some cars now for a controlled test group. Need to run on more than just mine before releasing. I'm keeping quiet until then. Should have kept my mouth shut a couple years ago as I didn't count on some rather long business and personal delays / time killers.
I hear ya!!! Wish you could test on OUR car, but we're too far away from ya! Good Luck with further testing...you needn't have kept quiet, but I understand with the issues you were facing~~no prob!!! ~juli
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Hi Sean,

I'm interested!!
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mee too...ill take one..thanks
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Sean,
Put me down for one.
Chuck Greggs

PS. Can one be developed for the Gen 1 cars?
That's a negative on the Gen1's. They're not OBD2.
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