Where is the magazine spread and test drive of the 2008?

[CarDude]

If the car is to be release for sale in a few months...where are real specs for how it accelerates and handles? Is the 2008 a real car or what? What is the hold up? Usually the press gets to kick around a new car before anyone else what gives? And what about price...

Really what is going on?

[Janni]

There was a HUGE driveaway event this past week at Virginia International Raceway..... 2008's were there and tested on track then handed over to the media for the rest of the week.

I saw the snakeskin green convertible leaving the track (thanks for hanging out so we could see it at Viper Days, Herb..... ha ha), and then the dark red with silver stripes coupe (GORGEOUS!) Traveling in opposite direction didn't allow time to get camera. Hauling 48' trailer made u-turn and chase a nonviable option.

Expect to see articles SOON.

[Blue Pilot]

There will be 10 page articles on the new Z06 (or blue Devil) with nothing but praise and glory.

Then there will be a few paragraphs about the new Viper in all the car rags, telling how the car is fast but too hard to drive, too hot, etc. I have given up hope on a non-bias review for our cars.

[CarDude]

Originally Posted by Janni

There was a HUGE driveaway event this past week at Virginia International Raceway..... 2008's were there and tested on track then handed over to the media for the rest of the week.

I saw the snakeskin green convertible leaving the track (thanks for hanging out so we could see it at Viper Days, Herb..... ha ha), and then the dark red with silver stripes coupe (GORGEOUS!) Traveling in opposite direction didn't allow time to get camera. Hauling 48' trailer made u-turn and chase a nonviable option.

Expect to see articles SOON.

Thanks..I am just looking for the real 0-60 number instead of the Dodge "least than 4 seconds" crap. Also I want to know how the different bits and pieces all work together to create a different experience or one that is the same or similar to the current Viper.

[Scratch]

Originally Posted by Blue Pilot

There will be 10 page articles on the new Z06 (or blue Devil) with nothing but praise and glory.

Then there will be a few paragraphs about the new Viper in all the car rags, telling how the car is fast but too hard to drive, too hot, etc. I have given up hope on a non-bias review for our cars.

It will read how both these cars surpass the Porsche 911 and for thousands less...but our opinion is the Porsche hands down...again, winner!

[VENOMAHOLIC]

Originally Posted by CarDude

Thanks..I am just looking for the real 0-60 number instead of the Dodge "least than 4 seconds" crap. Also I want to know how the different bits and pieces all work together to create a different experience or one that is the same or similar to the current Viper.

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0-60 is getting to be a poor test since the 1990's. The hp is getting so high on cars that there is traction issues with all the wheelspin. The 1/4 mile and even the standing mile are more of a true test of supercar performance nowadays. I also concur that the 1st comparison issue will show how refined the Porsche is and how overall better the Z06 is even though the Viper left them behind. I just hope they use good drivers in the tests to get the best out of all the cars.

BTW, I am also looking foward to tests of the 2008 Viper because the runflats are gone and performance should improve dramatically.

[Racer Robbie]

I am also starting to wonder if the 2008 will really be built in view of the upcoming sale of Chrysler. Talk is cheap and seeing is believing! If you want to put the viper to the test against the vette then you need to pit them against each other with professional race car drivers, who race each of the respective cars on a regular basis, on a road course where they can be raced against each other as they were meant to be. Vipers were never built to be drag cars. They are road racing cars. When the smoke has cleared I believe we will be the clear winner against the vette.
JMHO

Robbie

[viperbilliam]

Vipers seem to do pretty well in drag races but a road race is of far more interest to me to show real world balanced performance. Yes, tires are more of an issue now so rolling starts are becoming a better way to do haul ass testing.

[FE 065]

Just put drag radials on both of them for the test and eliminate the traction factor..

[Alexarz]

Originally Posted by FE 065

Just put drag radials on both of them for the test and eliminate the traction factor..

Damn good point.

[Smog Dog]

Originally Posted by Racer Robbie

I am also starting to wonder if the 2008 will really be built in view of the upcoming sale of Chrysler. Talk is cheap and seeing is believing! If you want to put the viper to the test against the vette then you need to pit them against each other with professional race car drivers, who race each of the respective cars on a regular basis, on a road course where they can be raced against each other as they were meant to be. Vipers were never built to be drag cars. They are road racing cars. When the smoke has cleared I believe we will be the clear winner against the vette.
JMHO

Robbie

I can understand wondering if the next generation will be built, but how can you doubt the 2008? Lots of people already have VINs.

[Yellow32]

Originally Posted by Smog Dog

I can understand wondering if the next generation will be built, but how can you doubt the 2008? Lots of people already have VINs.

How about this:

from:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...024/LATESTNEWS


Chrysler kills Imperial sedan
Automaker cites expected hikes in fuel economy standards
By BRADFORD WERLE | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS

AutoWeek | Published 07/18/07, 10:19 am et
DETROIT — The Chrysler Imperial is dead. Chrysler officials told the Canadian Auto Workers this month that the big sedan, which would have been based on the Imperial concept show in Detroit in 2006, will not be manufactured.

High gas prices and new federal fuel economy legislation now making its way through Congress helped “doom a car that would have been substantially bigger than our largest sedan, the Chrysler 300C,” said Chrysler spokesman Dave Elshoff. “We felt it would have been irresponsible to bring a vehicle like that to the market at this time.”

By 2020, the new standards would require automakers to average 35 mpg in the vehicles they produce.

The Imperial was to have been based on the same rear-wheel-drive platform as the 300C, Dodge Charger and Dodge Magnum, which consume well below 35 mpg. The Imperial drew mixed reviews when it appeared at the 2006 Detroit auto show. Some thought it pointed to a possible future for Chrysler as a quasi-luxury brand. Others thought it looked too heavy and bloated.

“We were unable to build a business case for the Imperial concept,” Elshoff said.

Chrysler is studying other products for production in its Brampton, Ontario, plant and should make an announcement soon, he said. Elshoff said Chrysler had informed representatives of the Canadian Auto Workers of the decision earlier this month.

In March, CAW members agreed to salary concessions in exchange for Chrysler’s guarantee in an estimated $700 million investment in a new product would come to Brampton. The workers first rejected the concessions and then reversed themselves after Chrysler threatened to move the product elsewhere. Chrysler officials never stated what that product was.

[Smog Dog]

Originally Posted by Yellow32

How about this:

from:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...024/LATESTNEWS


Chrysler kills Imperial sedan
Automaker cites expected hikes in fuel economy standards
By BRADFORD WERLE | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS

AutoWeek | Published 07/18/07, 10:19 am et
DETROIT — The Chrysler Imperial is dead. Chrysler officials told the Canadian Auto Workers this month that the big sedan, which would have been based on the Imperial concept show in Detroit in 2006, will not be manufactured.

High gas prices and new federal fuel economy legislation now making its way through Congress helped “doom a car that would have been substantially bigger than our largest sedan, the Chrysler 300C,” said Chrysler spokesman Dave Elshoff. “We felt it would have been irresponsible to bring a vehicle like that to the market at this time.”

By 2020, the new standards would require automakers to average 35 mpg in the vehicles they produce.

The Imperial was to have been based on the same rear-wheel-drive platform as the 300C, Dodge Charger and Dodge Magnum, which consume well below 35 mpg. The Imperial drew mixed reviews when it appeared at the 2006 Detroit auto show. Some thought it pointed to a possible future for Chrysler as a quasi-luxury brand. Others thought it looked too heavy and bloated.

“We were unable to build a business case for the Imperial concept,” Elshoff said.

Chrysler is studying other products for production in its Brampton, Ontario, plant and should make an announcement soon, he said. Elshoff said Chrysler had informed representatives of the Canadian Auto Workers of the decision earlier this month.

In March, CAW members agreed to salary concessions in exchange for Chrysler’s guarantee in an estimated $700 million investment in a new product would come to Brampton. The workers first rejected the concessions and then reversed themselves after Chrysler threatened to move the product elsewhere. Chrysler officials never stated what that product was.

Not even in the same zipcode. One is an existing model; the other is a concept requiring a 700 million investment.

[mike & juli]

Like many of you, we are awaiting FINAL-REAL test specs on the '08...on it ALONE, no need to compare it to anything else out there...just DRIVE THE CAR AND LET US KNOW!!!
Anxiously a-waiting here. ~juli~

[Warfang]

Originally Posted by Yellow32

Some thought it pointed to a possible future for Chrysler as a quasi-luxury brand. Others thought it looked too heavy and bloated.

That would describe every Rolls and Bently ever made.