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Just got my new Autoweek, and it has official info the new ACR.
The bullet points: Same HP and torque Michelin Pilot Sport Cups Sidewinder wheels StopTech 2 piece slotted brakes coil over racing dampers from KW Suspensions new front stablizer bar 3 inch "fanged" front splitter carbon fiber 7 way adjustable rear wing radical 2 tone paint scheme- blacked out hood, roof and trunk/tail lid And a "hard core" package that: deletes the entire audio system, hood pad, trunk carpet and tire inflator. Botton line- "priced under $100,000 according to Herb Helbig
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Previous Vipers- 2002 Bumblebee GTS 2005 Copperhead #159 2001 Sapphire and silver ACR Last edited by Lawrenzo; 11-07-2007 at 06:08 PM. |
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Nobleton, Ontario, Canada
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Sounds like the "competition group" that was advertised on Dodge.ca - Cars Trucks Minivans SUVs in Canada - Home several weeks ago and then got deleted by Dodge in a hurry with the explanation that someone had "hacked" into the website and planted it there causing a lot of embarrassment.
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cali Blowz, Back in ChiTown
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photos of this ?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SF Bay Area
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I really hope that its going to be lighter unless it will be pointless, I also think it should use multi spoke wheels like the old ones and atleast a small increase of HP. Was there a drawing or a picture of it becuase it sounds like the one shown at Sema?
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wonder what the wheels will look like
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99 GTS ACR 2700 actual miles 10/07 - present99 GTS ACR 44000 miles (RIP) 8/02 - 9/07
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Topeka, KS
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Does the car really need better brakes?
No weight reduction or power increase?
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2008 ACR - on order 2005 Copperhead - for sale (see classifieds) Red 1997 GTS - track mods |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SF Bay Area
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Is it just me or does this car fit the description pretty much
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Same wheels and front splitter. The ACR is a coupe with the tall wing and a much more radical paint job though. It made the cover of Autoweek, but I don't have access to a scanner- I'm sure someone will chime in soon to post the pictures. It looks badas*
The sidewinder wheels and cup tires drop around 40 pounds, and the hard core package drops another 40 pounds.
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Previous Vipers- 2002 Bumblebee GTS 2005 Copperhead #159 2001 Sapphire and silver ACR |
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Viper Owner
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Texas
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I hope Autoweek is wrong and that it also has some of the Mopar engine/HP upgrades.
The reduced weight, stabilizer bar, wing & splitter and tires will reduce lap times somewhat, but they won't help in the 1/4 mile magazine comparisons ... |
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Why would dodge tip their hand too much when it comes to engine/hp upgrades in light of the pending ZRcorvettewhatever release by chebby? Especially when the first '08 has even yet to hit the streets.
Something like this fits the description better: ![]()
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VIPER - It's NOT a car - it's an OBSESSION! '05 SRT Dark Kandy Red Street Serpent. '93 RED RT/10 - Sold. Last edited by ROCKET62; 11-07-2007 at 07:17 PM. |
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Rocket62,
Yes, agree. This is more like what I had in mind, but at least 200 lbs lighter (compared with stock) and with 675 hp. I can easily make the changes noted above using aftermarket parts. Dan
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2009 ACR, 2006 VOI9 Coupe 2004 Black SRT-10, 925 rwhp Paxton beast 2001 GTS ACR |
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So assuming that they are using the OEM Sidewinder wheels in 18x10 front and 19x13 rear sizes, does this mean that the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup will now be made available in OEM Viper sizes (275/35/18 front and 345/30/19 rear)?
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2008 Viper GTS Blue Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible Previously: 2006 Viper GTS Blue Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible |
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Good lord I hope that is not true. It waters down what the ACR is all about. If it is going to be a piece of junk "Aero" package, give me a break!
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2001 Viper GTS ACR Sapphire Blue w/o stripes |
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It seems to me that this propsed ACR package is a significant upgrade over the 1999 to 2002 original ACR package where you received shocks, springs, BBS wheels, 10 HP, five point harness and that was about it? This new package appears to provide among other things upgraded brakes, rear downforce in the form of an adjustable wing, larger stabilzer bars, adjustable shocks and springs and tangible cosmetics for the body to distinguish the package. For myself and most folks 600HP is sufficient for the weekend club racer? This new ACR gives the club racer better brakes, an adjustable suspension and an adjustable rear wing with 600 HP in a bullet proof package under warranty on a race proven fully sorted out chassis. Who would have thought in 1999 or 2002 with our 460 HP ACRs we would have been unhappy with "only" 600 HP for our weekend racer?? LOL
However I suspect all of us in the Viper nation are looking over our collective shoulder at the new ZR1 rumored to have 650 RWHP. Perhaps we should remember since it's inception the Viper guys at Dodge have not let the Viper ever fall behind the Vette in terms of performance and I doubt they will stop now? Helbig is still there and unless they are prevented by the new owners, congress or the insurance industry I think they will take care of business as they always have? My two cents. All I need to know is when Bill P. can order mine and if they can throw out the AC with all that other unnecessary weight?
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08 SSG coupe, 06 VCA coupe #13, 02 GTS FE ACR #312, 98 GT2 #008, 98 GT2 # 089, 96 GTS, 92 RT 10 #135 |
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I want the new ACR to be the closest thing to a competition coupe that's street legal!!!
Regards, Aaron
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2002 Viper GTS ACR Graphite 2003 SL500 Sport John 3:16-18, Galations 3:29, Psalm 27
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Hey man, you are getting a "body kit" for "downward force"
Cant wait for the lights under the sills of the car to make it glow at night. Yeah....thats an ACR.
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2001 Viper GTS ACR Sapphire Blue w/o stripes |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Davisburg, MI 48350, USA
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Trust me. It's BAD ASS!
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The lights? Why don't they just make them pink. That should suffice.
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2001 Viper GTS ACR Sapphire Blue w/o stripes |
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: bay area ca.
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Here is the deal....
It is going to take alot more than a "splitter" to make a car an ACR. As you can read above, There is no horsepower change. Zero. A splitter and a wing are only good in certain circumstances on a track, and really harkens to the car becoming a ricer. Wow....they take out the hood pad and the tire inflator. Cant we do that in like, I don't know, 3 minutes? They "black out" sections of the car. And most telling......the original ACR had 5 point safety harnesses for racing. Here? Nothing. Rice. Just telling it like it is, from what is reported.
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2001 Viper GTS ACR Sapphire Blue w/o stripes |
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Please, please, please do not get this car wrong. I do like the smiley, however. Good omen.
You officers are always doing the "kiss and tell". Must be nice to be part of the secret handshake club. Waiting patiently in the dark until enlightened......
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2001 Viper GTS ACR Sapphire Blue w/o stripes |
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If the shocks are 3-way adjustable then that is huge for tracking. The GenII ACR shocks didn't have height adjustment which was a major shortcoming for a car with a "Club Racer" moniker. Also, the GenII ACR didn't have two-piece rotors. Another major mistake for a car with ACR badging. To some it up the GenII ACR was a major disappointment from a tracker's perspective. The 08 is already a killer in stock form, if the reports of these upgrades are accurate then this will be the first TRUE Viper ACR. The choice between a 08 stocker or a CC is already difficult. Now this ACR makes things even more complicated.
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Good. They can delete some of the interior stuff too and are they gonna get rid of that stupid tire pressure idiot light?
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Don't forget about the swing arm oil pickup on the 2008's. That was a major drawback from the earlier cars, correct.
Maybe some aftermarket headers, exhaust, and intake massaging can add some relatively cheap extra horsepower too. We should all be happy that Dodge/Cerebus is even making the darn thing
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Viper Owner
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Location: Texas
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... if this is all true, then I would hope Dodge would also offer just one more factory line-item option: the Mopar 'Race' headers, exhaust, PCM, etc. with the +75HP, for the ultimate not-street-legal/track-only ACR Viper ... (and then get us some lap-time test results from the Gerberbabyring in Germany) |
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Thanks for scanning this.
/Rich
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2008 Viper GTS Blue Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible Previously: 2006 Viper GTS Blue Dodge Viper SRT-10 convertible |
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I will wait patiently till Friday!
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Dang that's it. I'm going to make babies and sell them until I can get this car.
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