Nissan GTR Versus The 08 Viper

[mad0953]

My feeling is this if anyone cares: I am going to get a GT-R if I have to live in this God forsaken 4 feet of snow s**t hole region anymore. I can't stand driving a pos fwd boat any longer in the Winter. If Caddy made a AWD CTS that was as fast as the GTR-R I'd get that in a heartbeat.

[Blue Batmobile]

Originally Posted by GRNBGON

Sorry, but, it looks just like all the other silver import cars out there.

Thats why when I get mine, I will paint is Snakeskin Green .

Bat™

[PhoenixGTS]

Some of you guys are missing that a GT-R does not simply have traction control. It also has (like some other cars - F599 comes to mind) launch control which allows you to engage the launch control, floor the car, it holds the car to a lower rev limit (probably 5k) partly via retarded timing which heat up the exhaust gas temperature and spools the turbos while the car is sitting still then when you press the go button it launches the car perfectly for you. That is more than simple traction control and has to help on 0-60 times. You can see too that in the comparo tests the 997TT gets to 100 mph faster which also supports launch control having a huge benefit on the shorter test numbers.

[RTTTTed]

I guess that finally Nissan has given up on 4 and 6 bangers? Finally building a big bucks V8? I can't understand how they could take such a tiny V8 and end up building a heavy pig. If they're trying to keep up with a Porsche shouldn't their little car weigh 2200# and have 550hp? Or they're just saying a "Porsche meaning the slowest one?" And to compete with the slowest Ferrarri made?

I think the GTR is a poser. When I saw the driving comparison on the road course the comparison ended when the guy stepped on the throttle in the Viper. The finding was that there was NO comparison. They said they'll try comparing them on the street next. Under 60mph the GTR can probably be compared. If driven by my son, I know he'd pick the Viper, because he loves tire smoke. My daughter would pick the GTR because too much tirespin would scare her. Last night the fat guy drove it around the road track in the snow. He said he likes it because it makes him feel like he can drive it - and he's a lousy driver.

I'd race the GTR with my 500hp AWD Stealth R/T TT. And the ECS has been removed/upgraded with GAB gas adjustables and Eibach springs.

Ted

[SnakeBitten]

^^Ummm the GTR is a TT V6 not a V8. As for you beating a GTR in a straight line no biggie really. But the GTR isnt about straightline only. The times its been knocking off on different tracks even with its piggish weight are pretty astounding. Technology can make a turd go around corners it seems. Just a phrase folks, I dont consider the GTR a turd Im eagerly awaiting how many seconds the GTR is going to beat the Viper by Yawn.

[RTTTTed]

Iread that the GTR was a TT V6, then I read that the GTR was a 4.1L V8 (maybe the GTR that is actually fast with over 500hpand 300# lighter?).

So it seems that there's a few guys that think that a computer turns better than bigger tires and lower CG? I figure that even if the computer copies a race driver it ain't gonna win.

I don't see the brakes being applied going faster. A computer is great if you're driving an SUV and want a soft ride, or a vette with enough ground clearance to allow a computerized soft ride, then stiffen the susp. to the kind of ride I enjoy (stiff). I don't need a computer to raise and lower my car since I do actually have a little over 1.6" of ground clearance. Yes I do scrape once in awhile and no I don't want to spend $10K to have the susp. raised and lowered. It's only a couple hundred to reapint the scrapes.

If computerized cars were what I wanted I would, of course, drive a Mercedes SL. Or does someone think the GTR will be able to compete with the SLR as well???

Ted

[Warfang]

Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

^^Ummm the GTR is a TT V6 not a V8. As for you beating a GTR in a straight line no biggie really. But the GTR isnt about straightline only. The times its been knocking off on different tracks even with its piggish weight are pretty astounding. Technology can make a turd go around corners it seems. Just a phrase folks, I dont consider the GTR a turd Im eagerly awaiting how many seconds the GTR is going to beat the Viper by Yawn.

I think you got it right the first time... it's a piece of turd. Go troll in the Barbie dream car forums.

[SpeedThrills]

All and all it's an Amazing car especially for the money. Since it really is hurting in the looks dept, if I had to go to japan for a performer I'll take the new V10 supra. Turn your speakers way up for this one. Thing sounds and looks great.

YouTube - The New Supra

[cyaford]

Taken from another site:

Nissan has seen a sub-7 minute 25 second Nürburgring run out of the GT-R V-Spec — 18 seconds faster than the current car.

Underhood, the GT-R V-Spec's turbocharged mill will see an increase in boost, raising output to at least 550 horsepower — up from the standard GT-R's 480 horsepower. In addition to the power boost, the V-Spec will shed 330 pounds.

This test car gets a revised front splitter, which sports some additional air intake slits, presumably to feed more cooling air to the brakes. New six-spoke wheels also house what appear to be a revised braking system. The golden Brembo brake calipers were an ever-present feature even on the first GT-R prototypes, but they're a no-show on this tester. A closer look at the prototype's brakes reveal that the road-going GT-R V-Spec will likely use a carbon-ceramic setup.

That puts Nissan's newest test mule...

... over 2 seconds ahead of the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport
... three seconds ahead of the Porsche Carrera GT
... nine seconds ahead of the Koenigsegg CCR

WOW!!! Although a very impressive time, I'm still going to wait and see what showroom cars are doing. It's not like Nissan would ever throw out a few ringers, right?

[ulllose]

Originally Posted by Burntrubber

Since I dont keep track of vette production years, i probably miss quoted. but i will try to find the article

i won't hold you to it,,,just busting balls

[SteveT]

launch control which allows you to engage the launch control, floor the car, it holds the car to a lower rev limit (probably 5k) partly via retarded timing which heat up the exhaust gas temperature and spools the turbos while the car is sitting still then when you press the go button it launches the car perfectly for you.

If this sounds like fun to you, save a ton of money and buy a Playstation!

Having said that....I have a Nissan GT-R brochure sitting on my desk.

[costanZo]

Originally Posted by SpeedThrills

All and all it's an Amazing car especially for the money. Since it really is hurting in the looks dept, if I had to go to japan for a performer I'll take the new V10 supra. Turn your speakers way up for this one. Thing sounds and looks great.

YouTube - The New Supra

I have been awaiting the new Supra for quite some time now..

However, that car in the you tube video looks a lot like the 2009 Lexus LF-A.....

[SnakeBitten]

Originally Posted by Warfang

I think you got it right the first time... it's a piece of turd. Go troll in the Barbie dream car forums.

You are one ignorant sob. Your extreme bias is exposed as you couldnt even see the sarcasm in my mentioning the seconds. All you saw was "GTR beating Viper by seconds" and you went off the deep end. Grow up already. Ive more than made my point about that aspect of mag testing but your ignorant behind with the Dodge blinders on cant help but be an idiot.

There are other capable cars that dont have the Viper name on it you know. GASP and some come from Japan. Come out from under that rock, let go of your bias and open your mind. The GTR is not the prettiest car and its not the most capable but its far from a turd. Real car guys will respect anything with performance credentials.

[JBsZ06]

Testing production prototype mules tends to lead many to believe the cars a ringer...

I don't get the whole "respect" this car gig....and the one thing I find disturbing where Nissan fanatics go nuts all over the internet trying to get people to respect Nissans..

Cant force respect...yet if I met an owner of a new GTR..as long as he enjoyed his ride...

I'd respect him because thats what lifes all about...

Making choices and enjoying them..

JB

[RTTTTed]

Originally Posted by JBsZ06

Testing production prototype mules tends to lead many to believe the cars a ringer...

I don't get the whole "respect" this car gig....and the one thing I find disturbing where Nissan fanatics go nuts all over the internet trying to get people to respect Nissans..

Cant force respect...yet if I met an owner of a new GTR..as long as he enjoyed his ride...

I'd respect him because thats what lifes all about...

Making choices and enjoying them..

JB

exactly, this is a VIPER forum.

There does seem to some 'ringers' as the GTR on speed channel was definitely NOT a V6. It sounded good.

If someone likes the Nissan GTR, great, go to the Nissan forums and brag there. I like my Viper and I'm not trying to push it on the Nissan forums. With only medium mods my Viper would rate somewhere well over 800hp and I daily drive it and enjoy it on long trips. Try that with a GTR.

Ted

Ted