The 08 ACR Is A Bargain Compared To This

[adamlotus]

150k lol i would rather be in a 08 which i am or buy a used lambo murci.what a joke 150k,its a vette at the end of the day with a blower.

[adamlotus]

Originally Posted by ViperTony

$150K??? Holy crap. What a rip-off. Even if you decided to upgrade the exhaust and headers on the '08 you'd still be way ahead in savings not to mention that you'll have an exclusive, bad-ass Viper. It'll be that more gratifying when you park the ACR next to a ZR1 and watch everyone crowd around the ACR.

i agree park a ssg 08 or an ornage one next to a zr 1 and no one will even look at the zri especially if theres a 08 acr there

[vincy]

Originally Posted by ViperTony

$150K??? Holy crap. What a rip-off. Even if you decided to upgrade the exhaust and headers on the '08 you'd still be way ahead in savings not to mention that you'll have an exclusive, bad-ass Viper. It'll be that more gratifying when you park the ACR next to a ZR1 and watch everyone crowd around the ACR.

I agree, this thought is pushing me to get headers and stripes. Since its will see track time, no supercharger.

We had the 08 Viper at a cruise in and had people talking to us the entire time.

[jessewallace]

@150k you should be looking @ a Ford GT, NOT a car that your grandmother can't tell the difference from the car that your grandmother was supposed to be able to tell the difference from a regular vette in the first place...but can't.

whew...that was a mouthful

c6 version 3.0 is what they should call it.

i think the z06 is a HELLUVA car, but i see the zr-uno as being more of a c6 gimmick just to up the viper in the HP#s war. but whatever.

[Boxer12]

Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment...

Let's say the ZR1 will beat the ACR or any other comp on the track (Ferrari, Porsche, other $150k cars like the GTS-R). If that is the case, would it not be a better bargain than the $150k that guys are spending on Z06 full blown race prepped cars to win the NASA TT or SCCA crowns (to beat the $150k Porsches)?

Maybe the ACR looks like a bargain now because the perception is that it will win the track duel. Suppose it doesn't? Suppose that Porsche also has a car coming out that will beat it? Suppose the GTS-R also beats it? Then is it such a bargain?

I know that it will be a fun time when a ZR1 and an ACR are head to head, be it at a stoplight or at a green flag. I think that the ZR1 guys are more interested in lining up with Ferraris and Porsches. Satisfy yourself on the 'bargain' mentality if you want, but I say that the Viper needs to put out 650HP in 09! P.S.-The Ford GT is old news. It hasn't beat anything, and in the future won't beat anything. A classic example of all talk, no podiums.

[HI-NOS-Viper]

Originally Posted by Boxer12

Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment...

Let's say the ZR1 will beat the ACR or any other comp on the track (Ferrari, Porsche, other $150k cars like the GTS-R). If that is the case, would it not be a better bargain than the $150k that guys are spending on Z06 full blown race prepped cars to win the NASA TT or SCCA crowns (to beat the $150k Porsches)?

Maybe the ACR looks like a bargain now because the perception is that it will win the track duel. Suppose it doesn't? Suppose that Porsche also has a car coming out that will beat it? Suppose the GTS-R also beats it? Then is it such a bargain?

I know that it will be a fun time when a ZR1 and an ACR are head to head, be it at a stoplight or at a green flag. I think that the ZR1 guys are more interested in lining up with Ferraris and Porsches. Satisfy yourself on the 'bargain' mentality if you want, but I say that the Viper needs to put out 650HP in 09! P.S.-The Ford GT is old news. It hasn't beat anything, and in the future won't beat anything. A classic example of all talk, no podiums.

But it is still just a Vette, and to the untrained eye looks like any other Vette out there. the ACR looks SOOO much better.

[jamie furman]

Originally Posted by Boxer12

Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment...

Let's say the ZR1 will beat the ACR or any other comp on the track (Ferrari, Porsche, other $150k cars like the GTS-R). If that is the case, would it not be a better bargain than the $150k that guys are spending on Z06 full blown race prepped cars to win the NASA TT or SCCA crowns (to beat the $150k Porsches)?

Maybe the ACR looks like a bargain now because the perception is that it will win the track duel. Suppose it doesn't? Suppose that Porsche also has a car coming out that will beat it? Suppose the GTS-R also beats it? Then is it such a bargain?

I know that it will be a fun time when a ZR1 and an ACR are head to head, be it at a stoplight or at a green flag. I think that the ZR1 guys are more interested in lining up with Ferraris and Porsches. Satisfy yourself on the 'bargain' mentality if you want, but I say that the Viper needs to put out 650HP in 09! P.S.-The Ford GT is old news. It hasn't beat anything, and in the future won't beat anything. A classic example of all talk, no podiums.

Well you need to do your homework a little better! The only Ford GT that I know that is being campaigned by Matech Racing just won the FIA European GT3 championship at Monza and the British GT3 championship as well 2 weeks later. A classic example of all talk, and no facts!

[Boxer12]

Jamie, I am talking about non-"race" cars. The "Ford GT Matech" is hardly a $150k car...can you buy one for $150k? New? Where?

CO-NOS, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I happen to agree with you, but when I am looking at who is taking the checkered flags, that is the most 'desirable' car to most track enthusiasts. The ACR was built for track enthusiasts, not built to be a 'polisher' car (agreed?)...IMO, it needs to be the top of the heap at SCCA and NASA to be successful in the mission it was built to accomplish. This is the year that it should have the advantage, before the comp catches up or excels, but nobody seems to be stepping up to the plate (except Hennessey in the OLA). Too bad.

[snakeplissken]

Theres really no point in Arguing which car is better looking or will attract the most attention its "Hands Down" the ACR. Also remember in 3 years there will be a C7 and the ZR1 will be a "Dinosaur" no matter how much power it has. Its unfortunate that Chevy didn't really go all out on the body style of the ZR1 instead of making it look like a Z06 with a few add ons.

[viperbilliam]

Originally Posted by Chuck 98 RT/10

Why so few? It seems there is pretty good demand for the ACR. Maybe not? IMO the ACR is the only Viper that should be built, hardcore of course.

No, Chuck, no, no. I believe more of us appreciate the convertible more. The ACRs certainly have their place but not exclusively.

[jessewallace]

Originally Posted by Boxer12

Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment...

Let's say the ZR1 will beat the ACR or any other comp on the track (Ferrari, Porsche, other $150k cars like the GTS-R). If that is the case, would it not be a better bargain than the $150k that guys are spending on Z06 full blown race prepped cars to win the NASA TT or SCCA crowns (to beat the $150k Porsches)?

Maybe the ACR looks like a bargain now because the perception is that it will win the track duel. Suppose it doesn't? Suppose that Porsche also has a car coming out that will beat it? Suppose the GTS-R also beats it? Then is it such a bargain?

I know that it will be a fun time when a ZR1 and an ACR are head to head, be it at a stoplight or at a green flag. I think that the ZR1 guys are more interested in lining up with Ferraris and Porsches. Satisfy yourself on the 'bargain' mentality if you want, but I say that the Viper needs to put out 650HP in 09! P.S.-The Ford GT is old news. It hasn't beat anything, and in the future won't beat anything. A classic example of all talk, no podiums.

the Ford GT old news??? that's sports car blasphemy! it's an INSTANT collector's item & one of the most capable sports cars ever produced. also a marvel in the fact that ford kept so true to it's roots. the success of the Ford GT has lamborghini considering producing another Miura. & like the GT, it'll be (if produced) a modern interpretation of the original.

the zr1, as performance oriented as it may be, is just simply a fancy c6. who cares what it beats. i mean, really @ these HP #s it's getting a little ridiculous. it's about building something that truly stands out & says I'm Me.

& Boxer, a much btr bargain comparison for u to have made is the Nissan GTR @ 70k. another helluva beast. one of the most potent production vehicles ever made (from what every publisher is saying @ least). how stupid do you feel when your ferrari gets whooped by that ugly porker of a car! that's the b1tch about bragging rights. they're lost quickly.

but cars like the viper, or the ford gt are instant classics. who will be loved long after the gtr is forgotten & they're HP #'s trumped by both themselves & their rivals.

it's like everyone keeps saying. the problem w/the zr1 is that's it's just a vette. i don't think there is a person on this forum who doesn't respect the performances #s it'll be capable of. but w/3 iterations of the current vette & TONS of the base model on the road, the overall majesticness of the car is lost to mass production.

& yes, 650hp stock for 09 would be nice, but it ain't happening. maybe 2010

[George Murray]

Nothing new there. Remember 1987 Buick GNX's selling for over $40K?

First edition ZR1s almost 20 years ago doing $100K? I know of a guy who bought four of those at that price. Took a serious bath.

1992 RT/10s doing $100K?

And, most recently, local dealers here in Hampton Roads, VA, marking up Challengers. A local dealer sold one last week for $62K.

[George Murray]

Not to mention, those base C6 engines popping like corks when SCCA'd.

[johniew398]

I was one of those in line for a ZR1 since I have owned Vettes for over 20 years. When they got ridiculous I pulled out of the game and ordered an ACR which is a much better looking car anyway!

This is the color scheme for mine:

[Sellshomesdrivesviper]

Originally Posted by johniew398

I was one of those in line for a ZR1 since I have owned Vettes for over 20 years. When they got ridiculous I pulled out of the game and ordered an ACR which is a much better looking car anyway!

This is the color scheme for mine:

Nice choice!!!