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    Well, it is done. The last of the renewal notice packages to our current Viper Club of America members have hit the post office. If you have not received your package yet, please look for it to arrive sometime between now and next week.
    For those of you who have, I hope you are enjoying your gifts. A huge Thank You goes out to so many of you who have already renewed! Your contribution to this club is greatly appreciated.
    VCA relies solely on membership money to function on a daily basis. Even Facebook and our Websites are not free to run– they take manpower and secure web-hosted servers to keep your data safe. Your paid membership ensures our ability to continue to provide you with the Knowledge and Hissstory of the Viper; and, awards you Viper Club Gifts which we send to our members throughout the year.
    So, if you are a Viper Owner and would like to show your appreciation to VCA, and receive some back, we ask that you please consider Renewing or Joining Viper Club of America. We are already planning some great things for next year – the Viper’s 25th birthday. We wouldn’t want you to miss out.
    PLEASE JOIN OR RENEW TODAY – THANK YOU.
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    Time for membership renewal, and I would like to see a copy of the financials before signing up. Didn't see anything in Guidestar, and just wondering if the paying members will get to see where the money went?
    Thanks

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    ViperCeeJ-----I can only say one thing, Great job and Thank you for all your hard work.


    Granger, the ending of the IRS held up the tax filing. All will be released soon.
    RED RT/10 with nice mods

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    Good to hear on both counts.
    Thanks Bill

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    I'm a bit confused about the renewal. I bought my car in June and joined then as well. That is when I paid for my annual membership. Nothing was pro-rated so why am I being asked to renew again when I haven't hit 12 months yet? If it's the same renewal time period for everyone why wasn't the initial membership pro-rated?

    Trying to decide if I'm going to renew at this point as I kind of feel snake bit (pun intended).

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    98RedGTS,
    You did join in June, at the E-membership level which has no proration because this level does not receive printed magazines. Both of the other levels that do prorate $20 at every quarter.
    Regardless, I like to welcome all new members with a little something extra, so I sent you the standard welcome package containing your patch and badges for you and your associate member; and, as a bonus, some other items (magazine, brochure - can't really remember at this point) that VCA had sent to their member prior to your join.
    You then received this gift package mailing along with a renewal request. We sent them together this year in an attempt to save a little money on postage.
    All memberships are calendar year and of course it's totally up to you if you want to renew, although we would most certainly appreciate it if you did. As a non-profit, we rely solely on membership money to pay for daily operations, and functions and gifts that we give back to our members. Only with your support, and the support of all other VCA members, can we continue to keep this club, this website, the VCA Viper legacy and its hissstory alive for all owners and enthusiasts to enjoy.
    If you have any other questions or concerns you are welcome to contact me at [email protected]. I hope you have at least enjoyed being a member so far. Thank you!

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    I recently renewed......wondered if I will be receiving a package
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    If you don't, please let me know. I will get one out to you.

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    I don't mean to be a pain but you should really disclose that the memberships are calendar year at the point of joining so that people know that they are not getting the full value of their membership if they join later in the year.

    I know it's not a lot of money and people will tell me to just get over it but the fact is that I thought I was paying for 12 months of membership and I'm not getting that which is wrong in principle. You can go ahead and cancel my membership.

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    Sorry you feel that way. National car clubs are not for everyone. Enjoy your Viper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98RedGTS View Post
    I don't mean to be a pain but you should really disclose that the memberships are calendar year at the point of joining so that people know that they are not getting the full value of their membership if they join later in the year.

    I know it's not a lot of money and people will tell me to just get over it but the fact is that I thought I was paying for 12 months of membership and I'm not getting that which is wrong in principle. You can go ahead and cancel my membership.
    Wow .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonTSi90 View Post
    Wow .
    Was not my first thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJeff View Post
    Was not my first thought
    I decided to keep the rest to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonTSi90 View Post
    I decided to keep the rest to myself.
    You and I both
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJeff View Post
    You and I both
    Im trying to play nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalonTSi90 View Post
    Im trying to play nice
    Trying to remember I still should


    Can you imagine sending out membership packets every day every year
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperJeff View Post
    Can you imagine sending out membership packets every day every year
    It's not that complicated. Either do that or pro-rate membership dues (as nearly every other club does).




    Yeah, have your fun. Facts are that I'm just not happy with the value of the purchase and I'm choosing not to renew. I figured they would like to know my concerns so that they could re-evaluate the system to potentially make it better. Facts are the process is misleading and since it's not a charitable donation (product is being sold) it needs to be corrected/clarified.

    I know your first comments..... something along the line of "if you can't afford _____ then you shouldn't own a Viper in the first place" which would further justify you don't understand the principle of the conversation I had with the OP. My frustration is not around the $$$, it was that I felt mislead as a consumer (again a product is being sold).

    Now enjoy yourselves. I really don't care and wont respond again. I had, an adult, conversation with the OP and they now understand my concerns. It's in their court on if they feel the communication is accurate or if it could be made better, which was my intentions of my comments in this thread.

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    As you did in post #9

    I expressed my interpretation of your comment
    Have a Great Day
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    Quote Originally Posted by newredrt10 View Post
    Granger, the ending of the IRS held up the tax filing. All will be released soon.
    An y progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98RedGTS View Post
    Trying to decide if I'm going to renew at this point as I kind of feel snake bit (pun intended).

    How would you like to take your Viper in for a twin turbo install and have it held hostage for three years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newredrt10 View Post
    ViperCeeJ-----I can only say one thing, Great job and Thank you for all your hard work.

    Granger, the ending of the IRS held up the tax filing. All will be released soon.
    Been 6 weeks. Any progress?

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    There are 20 days left for early renewal.

    Early renewal really helps us determine approximately how many members we will have in the upcoming year, and provides us with a starting point for our annual budget. Obviously, the more members renewed and joined, the more money the club has to give back.
    Please help me/us out and renew or join before the end of the year. I think last year's early renewers got some nifty gifts for doing so. Renew if you haven't already, to make sure you get yours, this year.

    Granger,
    The 990 return was filed but we are still waiting for the IRS's acceptance letter. All should be good and we should be able to post everything soon.

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    19 and counting

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRANGER73 View Post
    19 and counting
    19 and counting?????
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    From 10/21/2016 post

    Quote Originally Posted by newredrt10 View Post
    ViperCeeJ-----I can only say one thing, Great job and Thank you for all your hard work.
    Granger, the ending of the IRS held up the tax filing. All will be released soon.
    Bill, hope to see the tax return soon.

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    The 990 is not a typical tax return like most people are accustomed to. It is more of a reporting/information form. Remember, the VCA is on a fiscal year not a calender year. How's your Viper doing? Any new and interesting developments?
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    Its more of a tax form than a reporting form, but technically its an information return filed to prove you dont owe taxes.

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    Thanks for the observation. It is named a "Return". It's specific name is: "Return of Organization Exempt From Income Tax". In layman's parlance it is quite different from what most people think of as a return - like a Form 1040, 1120 or a 1041. I should have been more precise above so I edited the post.
    '14 Blk Vper TA; old Vper: Q:11.4, st mi:174; '15 Auto Chall Hellcat Q:10.985/126.96; 08 SRT8 Jeep(159.52 st mi)(Q:12.13/111.7);00 Fd Ltning:Q:12.89/105.48 (sold). Best Q (Tp Dragster): 207.43 /6.793

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    Bob, welcome to the Talon education team
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    I have no problem with his post. He was right. I was sloppy with my initial post. Having just helped deal with the IRS exam of the VCA Forms 990 for a number of years on a pro bono basis, I should have given more time to the post. I taught Federal Tax Litigation and Procedure at a law school for 25 years and I always liked the students the best that asked a question I did not immediately know the answer to and/or who caught me in a bit of imprecision in an off moment after a long day at my office. ( I taught from 7 to 9 at night.). I sometimes gave the students who did so extra class participation credit. It showed that they were listening and they cared.
    '14 Blk Vper TA; old Vper: Q:11.4, st mi:174; '15 Auto Chall Hellcat Q:10.985/126.96; 08 SRT8 Jeep(159.52 st mi)(Q:12.13/111.7);00 Fd Ltning:Q:12.89/105.48 (sold). Best Q (Tp Dragster): 207.43 /6.793

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